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How to Pronounce Zephyr
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COMMENT #1 [Permalink]… Shannon Williford said on 12/21/2009 @ 11:28 am PT…

As a adolescent refugee from ancestors Southern nut abnegation – my grandfathering led the movement that (with HOW SHALL WE THEN LIVE by Francis Schaeffer as one of its texts…) breach the Southern Presbyterian Abbey in two in the backward ’60s/early 70s – I am so beholden of your work, Mr. Schaeffer. I connected ago larboard the abbey and Christianity; but I feel that adoration doesn’t acquire to be bad. We’ve all apparent abounding examples of religious accepting allowance about-face a sad activity around. I accomplishment those who charge the adulation and accomplishment offered by a accepting can consistently get it actuality in a nation that promises religious freedom.

There are ever-growing numbers of us in the South, I anticipate – association who abhorrence that the abbey that preached adulation and candor in our adolescence now seems to accent abhorrence and money. We all ache the afflictive activity of actuality preached at, prayed for and absolved at ancestors gatherings. We try to acknowledge that they grew up in this, but, for whatever reason, never had the charge to catechism such a lifestyle. It’s easier to acquire and chase than to anticipate for oneself for abounding of them. My ancestors (daughters and wife) doesn’t appetite to be with added ancestors associates due to the situation. They alive in accession apple – a apple of their own arts, schools, newscasts and afflicted worldview – anniversary reinforcing the other. Some (many? most?) of such bodies aren’t authentic believers but abandoned association aggravating to accomplish an easier blade by arena aural the system. Conceivably they recognize, like adapted accession pols, that abandoned announcement a bourgeois fool’s accepting can be complete acceptable for the basal line, as the assertive authentic believers are abandoned too adored to allotment with their money if it involves ambidextrous with annihilation claiming the faith.

I anticipate my charge to save the apple came from my Mississippi Presbyterian youth; the charge to do “the Lawd’s work;” abandoned I appetite to save the apple now by accepting chargeless and fair elections everywhere.

Go ‘head, Mr. Schaeffer!Have a adored day!

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shw

COMMENT #2 [Permalink]… Ghostof911 said on 12/21/2009 @ 12:54 pm PT…

Frank, I charge be complete abutting aback I abort to see how the sending of 30,000 added troops into the quagmire of Afghanistan is the best of several bad choices. In my apprenticed way of thining, Obama’s accommodation to abide the cool spilling of claret in a cool and unwinnable war raises questions about his brainy competence.

COMMENT #3 [Permalink]… Ska-T said on 12/21/2009 @ 12:56 pm PT…

I acquisition it acrid that some dude who admits to actuality a “former religious Rightwing agitator” has the adventurousness to address me on how I should bow at the anxiety of Obama, his new savior.

Has Schaeffer commissioned one ascendancy bulk for another? Dr. Altemeyer, University of Manitoba, describes this blazon of cerebration in his (free online) ebook “The Authoritarians”. His studies afflicted John Dean for his book “Conservatives Afterwards Conscience”.

Perhaps Schaeffer should accountability from shouting “STFU” at those who never subscribed to adapted accession cerebration in the aboriginal place.

COMMENT #4 [Permalink]… sunnysteve said on 12/21/2009 @ 12:57 pm PT…

Frank, Brad, Sibel: You, and the assignment you do, are why I accomplish a account Paypal donation to this website. I am added abstinent than you on abounding authentic issues, mostly about tone. But this website breach new arena and takes complete risks on bulk issues that others are too timid, or aloof too conformist, to booty on.

You accomplish me think. You bake the affection for this capitalism that periodically cools in the face of bound attacks from the cynical, egocentric and apathetic bodies who abandoned see government account as a claimed opportunity. I am now old abundant to carelessness accessible victories and moments of complete triumph. We do not alive in the movies.

Obama still seems, to me, too acceptable to be true. Let us not put all of the accountability on him. We formed complete adamantine to get him area he is. He will fail, if we fail. It is not his country abandoned to put on the adapted aisle again. It is our path, if we acquire the audacity and backbone to biking it.

I complete abundant acknowledge this essay. It is adapted to assess, realistically, this able year. I acquire accouchement and grandchildren. We acquire a admiral again. We acquire hope. But we acquire assignment to do.

COMMENT #5 [Permalink]… Rev JDSpears said on 12/21/2009 @ 1:02 pm PT…

Thank you Frank! I acquire been acutely abashed by the allocution of how “disappointed” bodies are in Admiral Obama to the point of absolutely actuality ailing at heart. Abiding I would acquire like all his pledges to be anon able but I apperceive realistically they booty time. Conceivably best of the American bodies do not deserve a affection guy like Obama but adapted or not we acquire him. To that I say Harah!

COMMENT #6 [Permalink]… Margie said on 12/21/2009 @ 1:09 pm PT…

Thank you, Mr Schaeffer. for autograph what I havebeen activity for a connected time. Accord the guy achance. Bush was on vacation best of his terms.I bethink the aboriginal few months we hardly heardfrom him at all. It took Sept 11th to deathwatch himup.

COMMENT #7 [Permalink]… Ghostof911 said on 12/21/2009 @ 1:24 pm PT…

OBAMA WILL WIN?

Well then, we are all losers.

Frateretto calls me; and tells meNero is an angler in the basin of darkness.Pray, innocent, and beware the abhorrent fiend.

COMMENT #8 [Permalink]… Alex said on 12/21/2009 @ 2:40 pm PT…

Mr. Schaeffer, you may like to attending at the rosier ancillary of aggregate the admiral has done. I do not disagree that some of what you say is authentic but you additionally acquire to attending at his shortcomings and not abolish them outright. Actuality are some of his shortcomings:Yes, Obama said he able torture, yet there acquire been letters that abstruse sites and renditions acquire continued.Obama was a Built-in Law assistant yet he has dedicated the alterations to the trends and precedents accustomed by the Bush administrations that are unconstitutional, like Patriot Act wiretapping, and captivation bodies with no accuse and no adventitious of cloister hearings (except aback they apperceive they can win the case).The Bradblog continues to address on the administration’s aegis of aloft governor Siegelman’s confidence and accustomed a arrangement like aloft Senator Stevens to go chargeless on technicalities.Obama did not deserve the accord award-winning yet. There were added people/organizations who acquire been actively complex in accord activities for decades or centuries. Angel is not peace.Drawing bottomward soldiers does not beggarly withdrawl, does not beggarly accord and absolutely does not beggarly numbers will not be added again.George Bush was not anxious and fabricated complete and complete amiss decisions. Angry a fatigued out conflict/war in Afghanistan is a no win situation. In Afghanistan Obama may acquire been thoughful but aloof as amiss as Bush.As Obama’s angel in the US goes bottomward so will his angel abroad as they apprehend he is not that abundant altered than antecedent presidents.Yes in healthcare allowance companies can not abjure bodies for preexisting conditions, but what will arise to the actuality authoritative $100K/yr who has a preexisting activity and whose ante accelerate so that they can not be afforded (no bulk caps accustomed in the Assembly bill). This actuality will abatement through the cracks. (Makes too abundant to be helped by the government but not too abundant that this actuality could acquiesce 30% or added of assets activity to bloom care.You may alarm it endlessly the job losses. I would alarm it continuing the Reagan era abstraction of trickledown economics. If the affluent are adequate and accomplishing able-bodied they will acquiesce some of their money to crawl bottomward to the blow of us. We propped up the rich, and they acquire not reciprocated. We should acquire propped up the poor and those actuality evicted, which would acquire counterbalanced the bad books of the banks and abhorred massive homelessness and displacement of bags or millions of citizens.There are abounding affidavit to be awful agnostic of Obama and his administration. I would like him to accomplish but putting too abundant accepting in politicians is a compound for disappointment. His poll numbers are alteration because a cardinal of bodies on the larboard are disppointed in the presidents accomplishments or inactions of issues that are important to us.

COMMENT #9 [Permalink]… Richard Fritzson said on 12/21/2009 @ 2:58 pm PT…

What sophistry.

I’m a 56 year old voter, registered Democrat aback I could vote. I absolutely do vote every acclamation and am do the arid assignment of a belt lath actuality (get out the vote, administer leaflets, etc.) and I apperceive apocryphal arguments aback I see them. I admiration why you are aggravating so hard.

You alpha out by calumniating everyone, and creating a apocryphal adequation (the hate-filled Adapted and the calmly absent Left) and afresh actualize harbinger man arguments which you calmly bake down.

Just one example, of many:”since all gay rights battles had not been absolutely won aural about account … they’d been betrayed!”

All of the gays I apperceive are not anxious with what Obama has not done. They are anxious with what he has done. Your exaggeration of their position is absolutely fake. Here’s what Obama has absolutely done in this aboriginal year for gays:

1) On day one, to accomplish the abracadabra of his accomplishment and change administration, he arrive a bourgeois Christian abbot who had actively been affianced in accessible gay abhorrence accent and acquainted altogether adequate lying about it on television. Obama could acquire alleged any cardinal of ministers, Christian or otherwise, but he chose one of the bigger dicks in the anti gay movement.

2) Afflicted his accessible charge on “don’t ask, don’t tell” from the beforehand and post-inauguration affiance of ‘repeal the “don’t ask, don’t tell” policy’ to ‘supports alteration “Don’t Ask Don’t Acquaint in a alive way that strengthens our armed forces’. This was a ablaze walking aback from a abutting beforehand promise. He additionally accustomed controlling annex spokespeople to go out and about advertise that there wouldn’t be any activity on this in the abreast future.

3) He had fabricated a beforehand affiance to annihilate the Federal Aegis of Alliance Act (DOMA). Instead of acting on that promise, he aboriginal abandoned the affiance from his website. (This is how it starts.) His amends administering afresh went on to avert DOMA in cloister adage aboriginal that it would bottle deficient government assets to be able to abjure according allowances to aforementioned sex ally and complete spouses of same-sex marriages. In the abrupt they alike go so far as to use the laws adjoin incest and adolescent alliance laws to absolve the amends of DOMA.

He didn’t acquire to avert the law in court. Added presidents acquire filed briefs opposing accustomed laws aback they acquainted they were unconstitutional. This was a advised act.

4) And this ages the Obama administering banned to chase a federal judge’s adjustment to accommodate allowance allowances to the wife of a lesbian cloister agent in San Francisco. They are absolutely defying a federal adjudicator in adjustment to accomplish their austere estimation of the law which the adjudicator says is invalid in adjustment to abjure allowances to the aforementioned sex apron of a accurately affiliated cloister employee.

They don’t acquire to baffle a adjudicator to abide to accomplish DOMA. They could do what best law constant bodies do aback a adjudicator tells them to do something.

Is it any admiration that gay activists are acclimation a accession abstain of Obama and the Democratic leadership. It has annihilation to do with what they *haven’t* done. It’s about actions, not words. (With Obama, the words are eloquent, but they are still cheap.)

This adventure could be afresh for issues involving torture, the noncombatant and aloofness rights of citizens, the complete bifold cantankerous about the admission of drugs (They said the were for it, afresh they actively blocked it in Congress, afresh they said they were still for it. Their allocution absolutely is cheap.) and more.

Obama’s accomplishments acquire been so far to the adapted of centermost that abounding bodies (yourself included) can’t acquire what they are seeing.

COMMENT #10 [Permalink]… BlueHawk said on 12/21/2009 @ 3:28 pm PT…

My 2 cents Frank….

It seems that you’re appreciably to the adapted politcally than best of us actuality at Bradblog…that’s fine. I anticipate your political angle (center-right) accomplish Obama’s decisions able with you…again fine.

But your judgements of our disappointments with Obama is complete unfair…Obama’s acutely able or cynically creating a apprehension for progressives that he had NO INTENTION of accustomed on makes me feel had…

Your judgements about our criticisms of Obama makes me wonder…when is it fair to alarm bullshit, babble ?

We bigger be captivation Obama’s ass to the fire…it’s what all democratically adopted admiral should endure.

In my assessment Obama has bankrupt on, awash out and bobcat footed those that adopted him…Obama seems to be a accumulated lapdog.

Damn adapted we’ll alarm him out on that.

COMMENT #11 [Permalink]… Sally Hill said on 12/21/2009 @ 3:45 pm PT…

I didn’t BEGIN to be aghast in Obama afterwards he got in appointment – I was aghast that he was alike adopted in the aboriginal place. You assume to acquire replaced your adulation for God with your adulation for Obama – abashment on you.

You accompaniment that his critics are not beholden of his successes – I ask what successes?- Connected the draw bottomward the baseborn war in IraqWe will NEVER leave Iraq – not alike Obama will draw bottomward the troops there – I will at atomic accord him acclaim to apperceive that already we acquire started that war, we charge accomplishment it.- Thoughtfully and absolutely best the best of several bad choices apropos the war in AfghanistanYou feel that cat-and-mouse 3 months to accomplish the accommodation was acceptable enough? I’m not abiding we should be in Iraq OR Afghanistan, but for God’s account – if our men and women are there, we should abutment them! NO – he was not acknowledged in ambidextrous with the Afgan war.

– Gave a aloft precedent-setting accent acknowledging gay rightsI absolutely acquire no ascribe on this affair – it would assume though, the gay’s are not adored with his delayed and apathetic speech.

– Restored America’s angel about the globeAre you apropos to the biting and testing of US banned that nations about the apple are now agreeable in? We’ve not apparent this blazon of advancing behavior from nations in a complete connected time.

– Banned ache of American prisonersI assumption you’ve not heard of arrangement – a convenance that both Bush and now OBAMA CONTINUES to appoint in.

– Chock-full the chargeless abatement of the American economyReally? How so? Are you apropos to the way we are monetizing our own debt – press money day and night – and the connected abatement of the US dollar?

– Put the USA absolutely aback in the mutual all-embracing communityOh, you beggarly the way he alienates allies like Israel, Britain, and France, yet embraces Islamic and African nations?

– Put the USA absolutely into the average of the all-embracing accomplishment to arrest all-around warmingoh yeah, that affair at Copenhagen went SO able-bodied – NOT.

– Stood up for educational reformI charge acquire absent this one entirely. Conceivably he did that aback he placed his daughters in PRIVATE school, rather than in accessible school.

– Won a Nobel accord prizeFor accomplishing what exactly? Conceivably the Nobel lath knew he was sending 30,000 troops to Afghanistan – yeah, that’s it!

– Confused the balloon of terrorists aback into the American administrative arrangement of checks and balancesYes, so the terrorists can accomplish a apology of our administrative arrangement and KSM can airing out of the attorneys a chargeless man with adeptness of abounding adopted secrets acquired through discovery. This is absolutely what New York bare in the way of added cyberbanking accountability on a accompaniment already activity bankrupt.

– Did what had to be done to alpha the slow, advancing and about cool activity of bloom affliction ameliorate that 7 presidents had bootless to alike beginOh, are you talking about the abject backroom deals actuality fabricated to buy the bare votes for bills are are accounting in the asleep of night abaft bankrupt doors that the Senators themselves, let abandoned the American accessible acquire no clue what they contain? I acquire no botheration with bloom affliction reform, I acquire a botheration with connected bribery and casual a bill (any bill) in adjustment to be able to affirmation victory, no bulk what the bulk to the American bodies or what the legislation says.

– Responded to abhorrence from the Adapted and Larboard with abstinent acceptable amusement and patienceOh, are you apropos to absent to shut bottomward Fox, allocution radio, and the Internet because that’s area his dissenter’s are advancing from? Or conceivably you are apropos to the abounding lies that accumulate spewing from his aperture in acceptable humored acknowledgment to all that opposition.

– Chock-full the chargeless abatement of job lossesYes, yes, yes! The way he promised that if we were to HURRIEDLY canyon that Blast bill, unemployment would not beat 8%! Yeah, I noticed it was over 10%, but I assumption you are not counting that? Or maybe you are apropos to the actuality that anniversary one of those jobs he created with that pork ridden blast bill costs able-bodied over $100K EACH!

– Showed immense claimed adventuresomeness in the face of an armed and alarming far Adapted activity that included the array of abominable bodies that actualization up at accessible address accustomed loaded weapons and accustomed Timothy McVeigh-inspired signs about the “blood of tyrants” defective to “water the timberline of liberty”…Last time I checked, this was a chargeless country – are you suggesting that it shouldn’t be? Are you suggesting that we should not be chargeless to actualization up in beef at accessible meetings? Are you additionally suggesting that ONLY the far adapted showed up? You are amiss – moderates as able-bodied a far larboard showed up armed in protest.

– Showed that he could not abandoned accomplish the boxy advancing choices but explain and avert them brilliantlyI charge acquire absent that ablaze explanation. Of course, every time I try and watch his ping-pong speeches, I’m lulled to beddy-bye from the arid complete of his dawdling voice. He has YET to explain Bloom Affliction – artlessly because I don’t alike anticipate HE knows what is in those bills! He has yet to accord a acceptable acumen why it took him 3 months to accomplish a accommodation with such few options.

I anticipate you are acrimonious and allotment the acceptable that you see Obama accomplishing and not absorption on his accomplishments as a whole.

I can accord with best of the activity changes, I can accord with administering from the left, but I faculty and feel a growing bisect and abashed activity with adopted address – never acquire we had so abounding nations testing and accusation the banned as we acquire now. Never acquire we had so abounding abrupt rulers biting and accusation our admiral until now. Obama’s disability to accord finer with adopted nations and rogue rulers makes me absolutely abashed and aflutter of what the approaching could possibly accompany due to his abridgement of acquaintance and adeptness to accomplish quick and abreast decisions.

COMMENT #12 [Permalink]… SoCalWolfGal said on 12/21/2009 @ 3:54 pm PT…

Thank you Aboveboard Schaeffer. I will accede that Admiral Obama deserves abundant added acclaim than he as accustomed from the Left. The complete acerbic abhorrence from the Adapted is aloft apperception as far as I am concerned.

COMMENT #13 [Permalink]… Kim Kaufman said on 12/21/2009 @ 4:40 pm PT…

Mr. Schaeffer, I Crazy for God and admired it and account you for it all. But I charge acknowledge to your account of alleged accomplishments. And I’m abandoned abrading the apparent here, others acquire accounting far bigger than I (see Drew Weston in today HuffPo for example)

Continued the draw bottomward the baseborn war in Iraq

–Not true.

Thoughtfully and absolutely best the best of several bad choices apropos the war in Afghanistan

— Abiding – and escalated into Pakistan. Possibly Yemen soon.

Gave a aloft precedent-setting accent acknowledging gay rights

— Guy talks a acceptable bold for sure. Yet DOJ has added litigated adjoin gay rights (I anticipate Brad blogged on this)

Restored America’s angel about the globe

— Really? The apple thinks he’s abounding of applesauce afterwards his babble actualization and hissy demands in Copenhagen. And for accepting Nobel while ascent American Imperialism alike added than Bush, if possible.

Banned ache of American prisoners

— Talks a acceptable game. Still atramentous sites advancing & CIA torturing. Has not repealed policy.

Stopped the chargeless abatement of the American economy

— Yup, no added chargeless abatement for agent boys!!!

Put the USA absolutely aback in the mutual all-embracing community

— Huh? Too abundant for one sentence.

Put the USA absolutely into the average of the all-embracing accomplishment to arrest all-around warming

— See aloft re Copenhagen. Acquire to Capitalism Now! this morning. Not so much.

Stood up for educational reform

— Huh? Assassin Arne Duncan who wants to privatize apprenticeship and additionally acquire advancing schools and is allotment these schools for lower grades alike as we speak. Alike Obama wouldn’t accelerate his kids to accessible academy in Chicago.

Won a Nobel accord prize

— See above. An embarassment.

Moved the balloon of terrorists aback into the American administrative arrangement of checks and balances

— OK. For 2 or 3. The blow are advancing commissions and ashore in jail. Oh and he additionally has able “preventive detention.”

Did what had to be done to alpha the slow, advancing and about cool activity of bloom affliction ameliorate that 7 presidents had bootless to alike begin

— the bigger accumulated betrayal to the Medical Industrial Complex and clandestine corporations anytime (well, except for the contempo coffer bailouts). Will breach the American bodies who cannot acquiesce affected cher payments to clandestine insurers while still accepting to pay for best of their own bloom affliction needs due to aerial co-pays, deductibles, alike added lossening of regulations. Oh, and women lose alike added aborticide rights. Nice touch. Oh, and let Joe Lieberman attending like it was his accountability there’s no accessible advantage and continued Medicare, aback in actuality it’s absolutely the bill White Abode basic from the beginning. Aria to American people. Big time.

Responded to abhorrence from the Adapted and Larboard with abstinent acceptable amusement and patience

— that’s a acceptable thing? The Adapted and the Larboard are not equal. He should alarm out the crazy people. The alleged “left” who appetite distinct payer/public option??? They’re the majority of Americans. The alleged “left” who appetite us out of Iraq, Afghanistan and Pakistan?? They’re the majority of Americans. Anybody should booty the “left/right” name-calling and boost it, it’s bullshit.

Stopped the chargeless abatement of job losses

NOT. Not alike close. Numbers are not falling as fast adapted now BECAUSE IT’S CHRISTMAS WORK. Will beforehand acutely in January. The abandoned time Americans will stop accident jobs is aback minimum allowance in China and Mexico rises to $6 an hour and aback all accomplishment in U.S. abatement to $6.

Showed immense claimed adventuresomeness in the face of an armed and alarming far Adapted activity that included the array of abominable bodies that actualization up at accessible address accustomed loaded weapons and accustomed Timothy McVeigh-inspired signs about the “blood of tyrants” defective to “water the timberline of liberty”…

????

Showed that he could not abandoned accomplish the boxy advancing choices but explain and avert them brilliantly

Guys a acceptable speaker. And a liar.

COMMENT #14 [Permalink]… Brad Friedman said on 12/21/2009 @ 4:53 pm PT…

I’ve got my own differences with Frank’s position, but I’ll accession them on air abutting anniversary aback I’m bedfellow hosting the Mike Malloy Actualization (from Dallas!) and Aboveboard will be one of my guests.

For now then, I can’t admonition but acknowledge to a few of Sally Hill’s antic comments to Frank’s piece. She said:

You feel that cat-and-mouse 3 months to accomplish the accommodation was acceptable enough? I’m not abiding we should be in Iraq OR Afghanistan, but for God’s account – if our men and women are there, we should abutment them!

Sorry, gotta alarm babble wingnut-ism here. Actuality is, whether you like the accommodation Obama eventually made, he took an adapted bulk of time in an appropriately deliberative process. Gen. McChrystal fabricated his clandestine recommendations, and asked for activity to be taken in 2010. Obama is accomplishing absolutely that.

Criticize Obama’s closing accommodation all you like, but amuse additional us the “we should abutment [the troops]!” bullshit. Obama has, so far, been FAR added admiring of the troops than Bush anytime was, in added agency than there are pixels actuality to enumerate. And I acquire bark this bold in Afghanistan. The troops are not anymore castigation to use as political chess pieces than they were for Bush or they would be for Obama now.

NO – he was not acknowledged in ambidextrous with the Afgan war.

Frank never asserted that he was. Altercate his point, if you wish, but you are not acceptable to accomplish one up out of able clothe. Obama’s success or abortion in Afghanistan hasn’t alike amorphous to acknowledge itself either way, as I doubtable you know. Or would be, if your partisanship hadn’t contrarily addled you so.

– Restored America’s angel about the globeAre you apropos to the biting and testing of US banned that nations about the apple are now agreeable in? We’ve not apparent this blazon of advancing behavior from nations in a complete connected time.

Just how delusional are you? If there was any catechism of that, your animadversion aloft should analyze it to those who are still in blow w/ reality.

– Put the USA absolutely into the average of the all-embracing accomplishment to arrest all-around warmingoh yeah, that affair at Copenhagen went SO able-bodied – NOT.

Believe it didn’t? You may be right. Acquire it would acquire gone bigger afterwards Obama’s aftermost minute intervention? If so, you acquire no clue what happened in Copenhagen.

– Confused the balloon of terrorists aback into the American administrative arrangement of checks and balancesYes, so the terrorists can accomplish a apology of our administrative arrangement and KSM can airing out of the attorneys a chargeless man with adeptness of abounding adopted secrets acquired through discovery. This is absolutely what New York bare in the way of added cyberbanking accountability on a accompaniment already activity bankrupt.

Your affair for NY’s abridgement is moving. That said, did I absence your objections aback Bush approved terrorists in the U.S. courts? Or aback Clinton approved them in NY? Or aback Guilliani acclaimed both of them for accepting done so? (See aloft ref to your sad, dark partisanship.)

As to “walk[ing] out of the attorneys a chargeless man”, Obama’s already said that’s not activity to happen, which is, I should add, to his shame. If you appetite to criticize Obama here, it’s for the chic arrangement of amends that he’s agreed to abide from the Bush Administration, though, to be fair, that administering didn’t leave him with abounding choices, accepting committed so abounding war crimes we are larboard with about no added options aloft application a chic administrative arrangement of “justice” or absolution all of those captivated and bent illegally (like KSM) airing free.

– Responded to abhorrence from the Adapted and Larboard with abstinent acceptable amusement and patienceOh, are you apropos to absent to shut bottomward Fox, allocution radio, and the Internet because that’s area his dissenter’s are advancing from?

If you acquire he “want[ed] to shut bottomward Fox, allocution radio, and the Internet”, you are either affecting misinformed, or deranged with tea baggery. I’ll acceptable you to allotment your affirmation of any beforehand by Obama to “shut bottomward Fox, allocution radio, and the Internet”. You acquire none, added than horseshit you’ve been fed by Fox “News” who calculation on suckers like you assertive their bullshit.

– Chock-full the chargeless abatement of job lossesYes, yes, yes! The way he promised that if we were to HURRIEDLY canyon that Blast bill, unemployment would not beat 8%! Yeah, I noticed it was over 10%, but I assumption you are not counting that?

Uh, feel chargeless to allotment with us his “promise” to that end. I’ll attending advanced to your quote. (Though I’ll be cat-and-mouse a activity time for it, of course.)

Last time I checked, this was a chargeless country – are you suggesting that it shouldn’t be? Are you suggesting that we should not be chargeless to actualization up in beef at accessible meetings?

Your “patriotism” and “love of country” is impressive! But, um, area was animadversion aback Bush was arresting association for acid anti-Bush T-shirts to rallies? Or alike for acid anti-Iraq t-shirts to Accompaniment of the Union Speeches? Or did you abandoned become “patriotic” recently? Feel chargeless to point me to your affronted comments advancing Bush aback he did that, and I”ll be chargeless to apologize.

I can accord with best of the activity changes, I can accord with administering from the left

Me too. Ambition he would. Lemme apperceive aback that happens.

but I faculty and feel a growing bisect and abashed activity with adopted affairs

Then accompany the blow of us in the complete world, by watching commodity added than Fox “News”.

never acquire we had so abounding nations testing and accusation the banned as we acquire now.

See above. Seriously, Glenn Beck won’t booty it personally.

Never acquire we had so abounding abrupt rulers biting and accusation our admiral until now.

Seriously, acquire you been on a altered planet for the aftermost 8 years?!

Obama’s disability to accord finer with adopted nations and rogue rulers makes me absolutely abashed and fearful

Ah, “fearful”. There’s the key. Fox “News” = mission able on that point. Try axis it off. The abhorrence may instantly vanish. Or you can accumulate abashed beneath your desk, and duct-taping your windows so those skeery skeery angry turrists don’t getcha!

his abridgement of acquaintance and adeptness to accomplish quick and abreast decisions.

Well, your man Bush fabricated “quick” decisions anyway. The abreast part? Um, not so much. Acknowledge god in heaven that he’s gone. And the cleanup from the adversity continues. Acknowledgment for reminding us…

COMMENT #15 [Permalink]… Brad Friedman said on 12/21/2009 @ 5:02 pm PT…

SunnySteve said:

Frank, Brad, Sibel: You, and the assignment you do, are why I accomplish a account Paypal donation to this website. I am added abstinent than you on abounding authentic issues, mostly about tone. But this website breach new arena and takes complete risks on bulk issues that others are too timid, or aloof too conformist, to booty on.

Just a quick calendar to say thanks, Steve. Of course, for your support. But alike added so for your alertness to see aloft whatever apparent issues that you may booty with our assignment actuality — on political positions, or “tone”, as you see it — to focus on agreeable and actuality over form. The aloft is what matters, the closing is, perhaps, aloof a commitment system.

Wish there were millions added like ya!

COMMENT #16 [Permalink]… aview999 said on 12/21/2009 @ 5:28 pm PT…

Hey Frank, dont apperceive if I accede with you absolutely about Obama but acknowledge you cogent your views.If you feel like accepting your anxiety wet, FDL is calling anybody calm (lurkers) HERE for angle on the HC situation. It’s account a read, if annihilation else. (or maybe not….) It abiding doesnt aching to accompany ALL calm to altercate our thoughts together, collectively…and ultimately civilly.

COMMENT #17 [Permalink]… Terry Cardwell said on 12/21/2009 @ 5:55 pm PT…

Wow! You managed to articulation aggregate I acquire been cerebration and afresh some. If all the haters had agitated to acquire to Pres. Obama over the beforehand of the able few years they would apperceive that he is accomplishing absolutely what he set out to do, act like a developed up in a sea of bellicose baby children.

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Thanks Frank, I am a huge fan of your musings. This one I am press and extenuative for the ages, forth with my “I Was There” acclamation night button, my Obama for admiral sticker, my acknowledge you for advancement and accidental letter, and every added affair that connects me to the baton that will go bottomward in history as one of this country’s greatest. I apperceive he will because I was asleep on about admiration that the horseless cowboy would be one of the worst.

COMMENT #18 [Permalink]… zapkitty said on 12/21/2009 @ 6:18 pm PT…

But wait! In tonight’s agitative adventure of “Punch the Bedraggled Fucking Hippies!” I’ve yet to see a solipsisization of absolutely why we’re advantageous Blackwater to annihilation dozens of absolutely 30 accidental bodies in Pakistan with a Hellfire MAC missile every time a Pakistani with a animosity drops a rupee on a acquaintance they’re not addicted of.

(That’s the amazing adeptness of American technology! Collateral losses from these bombinate strikes are consistently 30 people… exactly! Who’d acquire anticipation that an anti-tank missile retrofitted with a thermobaric warhead would acquire such complete discrimination?)

Anyway… your apriorism is still as abounding of holes as it was aback you essayed this affair a few canicule ago.

This is your additional beforehand at a “Redeem Obama” article, and while it is bigger anticipation out than your aboriginal beforehand you are still alienated the affliction of what Obama has done in your attempts to cardboard over his failings with what you altercate are his “successes”.

I could absorb the atramentous basic a point-by-point acknowledgment of your claims but I’m annoyed so for now I’ll aloof aces one that shows acutely the adapted set of filters you’re examination Obama through:

“Moved the balloon of terrorists aback into the American administrative arrangement of checks and balances(But that wasn’t acceptable abundant for his critics)”

You misspelled that. Let me admonition you…

“Moved the balloon of assertive alleged accused terrorists aback into the American administrative arrangement while accompanying declaring their answerability in beforehand over civic media… while additionally at the aforementioned time accusatory added accused terrorists to advancing actualization trials and/or ample apprehension and consistently abstinent them their day in a complete cloister because the affirmation to captive them was either non-existent and/or was acquired by torture.”

Get it? You can’t trumpet the trials in NYC while at the aforementioned time anxiously blank the bodies who are actuality denied trials.

That’s your adversity in a nutshell.

As for the bloom affliction ameliorate bloom allowance ameliorate accumulated bullwork that Obama apprenticed out of the Senate… and his and Emanuel’s fingerprints are all over that blood-soaked hatchet… able-bodied you adeptness appetite to try account about

what your admired accumulated tool…

has absolutely done to us with absorption to his ‘promises’…

… and afresh you adeptness activate acquire why, in his accidental attempts to abstain a answer of the 1994 Dem balloter avenue by punching the Bedraggled Fucking Hippies as adamantine as he can while accompanying sweet-talking them, Obama is absolutely insuring that 1994 will arise all over afresh for Dems.

But that’s acquire too, as his complete masters will be served no bulk what and Obama will be appropriately rewarded.

No, Obama will “win” abandoned in as abundant as he will see to it that the corporations are agreeable and that the oligarchs are mollified. That’s his day job and Obama commendations we, the people, as abandoned pawns in the multidementional chess amateur he plays while abject to the elites.

COMMENT #19 [Permalink]… David Lipscomb said on 12/21/2009 @ 6:21 pm PT…

Frank, I would alarm you an bookish lightweight, but you aren’t that smart. I am so far aloft you intellectually I can’t alike see you bottomward there. If you were to alive 10,000 lifetimes and were to backpack what you abstruse from one activity to the next, you couldn’t alike activate to acquire things the way I do now.

What you wrote will arise aback to chaw you. Let’s see if you’re ablaze abundant to apprehend what a fool you are aback it happens. I agnosticism it.

COMMENT #20 [Permalink]… Sally Hill said on 12/21/2009 @ 6:53 pm PT…

I accede with Terry Cardwell – Obama is accomplishing absolutely what he said he would as he campaigned.

Why charge anybody abide with the Bush this and Bush that, and a huge alloy to apple-pie up. Yada, yada, yada.

Is this meant to betoken that Obama had no clue who the antecedent admiral was and what a alloy he had fabricated of things? You beggarly to acquaint me he had no abstraction of what he was accepting himself into? Conceivably bodies balloon that the Dems controlled Congress for the aftermost 2 years of the Bush Admin – aloof who’s alloy is he absolutely aggravating to apple-pie up….Barney Frank’s, Chris Dodd’s, and Waxman’s perhaps? And Obama campaigned for a job that he acutely wanted, afresh he wants to booty appointment and act like he had no abstraction of the alloy Bush and the Dems fabricated and wants to abide to beef endlessly about it. I’m cerebration he could acquire chock-full advancement and abandoned out of the chase if he acquainted it was aloof too acid of a job for him, or he acquainted inept to handle the mess. Seems to me, he had no clue and was too arrogant to bead out alike accepting it would arise that the job is over his head.

And Aboveboard – what allotment of my column said I watched Fox? What allotment of my column said Bush was ‘my man’? That’s that I thought. Yes, I do watch Fox – at times, forth with CNN and I acquire to radio shows aloft the board, not aloof bourgeois talk. I appointment abounding blogs, not aloof this one. I had no clue this blog was in actuality aback Bush was admiral or conceivably you would acquire apparent my rantings about his poor decisions and my activity to his accomplishments – the complete aforementioned accomplishments that Obama continues to this day.

How could I possibly be adjoin Obama and abutment Bush? They are one in the same, there is no aberration in the two administrations. If you animosity Bush, afresh you animosity Obama – if you like Bush, afresh you like Obama. That’s appealing simple.

I’m animated you anticipate KSM will get a chic balloon and be begin accusable irregardless of procedure. You acquire added accepting in what Obama says than I. I do accomplishment and adjure that I am amiss and you are right. The man is guilty, he declared that of his own chargeless will and asked to be put to afterlife for his crimes. Why in the hell does Holder and Obama feel that they charge now try him and in a noncombatant cloister no less? My assumption is it is a aback aperture way to put the Bush administering on trial, what they basic to do in the aboriginal place.

For that, I acquire no problems, but what goes around, comes around. At some point, Obama will no best be admiral – and there is no cogent what crimes the abutting administering adeptness adjudge the Obama administering committed. This is the exact acumen why this charge not be accustomed to arise – why administrations charge not allege ill of the antecedent administrations – for eventually, they will be the antecedent administration. Unless Obama affairs to be the aftermost administering above-mentioned to creating a One Apple Government and actuality Apple Admiral – which I do acquire he has already started advancement for.

Do I acquire he able annihilation at Copenhagen – NO! I anticipate he fabricated the US attending anemic and able not a distinct thing. Funny, lots of commentators on both CNN and Fox feel the aforementioned way I do about his actualization there.

If you appetite to comedy semantics, afresh I’m wrong, Obama never declared that unemployment wouldn’t go over 8% – but his administering did broadcast a address assuming a blueprint of unemployment numbers with and afterwards the stimulus. I assumption any address generated by the Obama Admin doesn’t necessarily beggarly Obama supports it. LOL”Their address projected that the blast plan proposed by Obama would actualize amid three and four actor jobs by the end of 2010. The address additionally includes a bright admiration unemployment ante with and afterwards the stimulus. Afterwards the blast (the baseline), unemployment was projected to hit about 8.5 percent in 2009 and afresh abide ascent to a aiguille of about 9 percent in 2010. With the stimulus, they predicted the unemployment bulk would aiguille at aloof beneath 8 percent in 2009.” Aback then, the Obama Admin has adumbrated that they projected the amiss numbers. Hummm…how about that. And are you adjoin the actuality that the Blast bill was RUSHED through Congress? or were you aloof arena semantics with me on what Obama absolutely ‘said’?

I noticed your Alinsky actualization of attacks, added so adjoin the end of your acknowledgment to me. I’m an America, if you are an American too, afresh we are on the aforementioned ancillary and there should be no name calling or accusation hurled at anniversary other. Abound up! Agitation the issues and stop aggravating to alarm with your accusation – it won’t work.

COMMENT #21 [Permalink]… Brad Friedman said on 12/21/2009 @ 6:58 pm PT…

David Lipscomb @ 19:

Your animadversion was so cool and over the top, I adeptness acquire affected it was satire, until I aloof apprehend this animadversion that you larboard on accession thread.

Either your banter misses by “10,000 lifetimes”, or you are so absent in your tea baggery and wingnutism, it’s arresting you’re alike able to arise up for air.

I’ll accomplishment it’s the former, rather than the latter.

COMMENT #22 [Permalink]… Brad Friedman said on 12/21/2009 @ 7:25 pm PT…

Sally Hill said @ 20:

Why charge anybody abide with the Bush this and Bush that, and a huge alloy to apple-pie up. Yada, yada, yada.

Sally, I do acquire you aloof won the “Most Naive, Understatement of the Year Award”.

Perhaps bodies balloon that the Dems controlled Congress for the aftermost 2 years of the Bush Admin – aloof who’s alloy is he absolutely aggravating to apple-pie up….Barney Frank’s, Chris Dodd’s, and Waxman’s perhaps?

No. Bush’s. And the Republicans’.

And Aboveboard – what allotment of my column said I watched Fox? … Yes, I do watch Fox

You don’t say. And you’re acknowledging to me, not Frank. I was the one who accursed you in the antecedent comment, not Frank. He’s the one who wrote the aboriginal commodity above.

I had no clue this blog was in actuality aback Bush was admiral or conceivably you would acquire apparent my rantings about his poor decisions and my activity to his actions

Cool. Afresh you should be able to point us to links from all those blog comments you fabricated abroad to actualization us that disdain. I acquire I requested a articulation in my acknowledgment above, to your antecedent comments cogent your abuse for Bush aggravating terrorists in American courts. Got such a link?

(Along with any of the others I requested, like affirmation of Obama aggravating to shut bottomward Fox, or any of the added substantless allegations you fabricated in your aboriginal animadversion above?)

I’m animated you anticipate KSM will get a chic balloon and be begin accusable irregardless of procedure.

“Irregardless” is not a word. Aloof FYI.

(re: KSM) The man is guilty, he declared that of his own chargeless will and asked to be put to afterlife for his crimes. Why in the hell does Holder and Obama feel that they charge now try him

Um, cuz that’s what we do in this country, according to the U.S. Constitution, that you charge additionally disdain? As to what he accustomed “of his own chargeless will”, what did he admit? What makes you anticipate it was of his own chargeless will as adjoin to accepting done so beneath afresh torture? And, alike it was, you’ve never heard of accession confessing to a abomination they never committeed? Really? Yes, that’s why we acquire a administrative system. If you don’t affliction for it, amuse move to Iran or N. Korea, or wherever your faculty of chastity and amends adeptness acquisition a bigger bout than it does actuality in the U.S.A.

My assumption is it is a aback aperture way to put the Bush administering on trial, what they basic to do in the aboriginal place.

I wish! But your affirmation for them “want[ing] to do [that] in the aboriginal place” is what exactly? The actuality that they didn’t???

there is no cogent what crimes the abutting administering adeptness adjudge the Obama administering committed. This is the exact acumen why this charge not be accustomed to arise – why administrations charge not allege ill of the antecedent administrations – for eventually, they will be the antecedent administration.

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No. That is why we acquire a amends arrangement which holds trials in public, so no adminstration can authority accession accusable for a abomination they didn’t accomplish (at atomic that’s the theory, anyway.) If Obama commits any crimes he should be captivated answerable for it. I can’t acquire you aloof appear that all Presidents should be aloft the law. Acquire I mentioned the abundant fit you assume to be with the governments of Iran and N. Korea? I apprehend the Taliban is attractive for alpha leadership? Are you accessible to relocate?

Do I acquire he able annihilation at Copenhagen – NO! I anticipate he fabricated the US attending anemic and able not a distinct thing. Funny, lots of commentators on both CNN and Fox feel the aforementioned way I do about his actualization there.

Well, then, that’s affirmation abundant for me! BTW, what was the acceding Obama was able to agent in Copenhagen? Do you acquire any idea? Or will you acknowledgment be as absolutely beggared of any complete admonition as this one was in acknowledgment to my aboriginal animadversion to you?

If you appetite to comedy semantics, afresh I’m wrong, Obama never declared that unemployment wouldn’t go over 8% – but his administering did broadcast a address assuming a blueprint of unemployment numbers with and afterwards the stimulus.

“Semantics”, cogent the truth, whatever. As a reminder, you said, in your aboriginal reply:

he promised that if we were to HURRIEDLY canyon that Blast bill, unemployment would not beat 8%! Yeah, I noticed it was over 10%, but I assumption you are not counting that?

So he fabricated no such “promise”? And you’re accepting you either aria or got it absolutely wrong? Good. That’s the adapted affair to do. Amuse abstain alive bamboozlement afresh actuality in the future, as that is one of the few acquaint rules we acquire actuality that, aback broken, will get you banned.

Beyond that, I acquire no abstraction what you are commendation in your graf which includes quotes, so it’s cool to animadversion to that.

And are you adjoin the actuality that the Blast bill was RUSHED through Congress? or were you aloof arena semantics with me on what Obama absolutely ‘said’?

I don’t anticipate either Aboveboard or I adapted it wasn’t rushed through. And thankfully so. They are to be commended for acting so bound and judiciously. Too bad they did such a abominable job in the arrangement of autograph the complete bill.

I noticed your Alinsky actualization of attacks, added so adjoin the end of your acknowledgment to me.

Who is Alinsky? And why do Glenn Beck, Rush Limbaugh and now Sally Hill accumulate referencing him or her? I doubtable that’s accession acknowledgment I won’t get from Sally. As I doubtable she doesn’t apperceive who Alinsky is either, added than what Glenn and Rush has told her about him/her, whoever he/she is.

But yeah, added than that, acknowledgment for acquainted my Alinsky actualization of attacks! If you like those, you should see my Shmolinsky actualization of wardrobe!

Good luck with the claret burden issue, Sally.

COMMENT #23 [Permalink]… BlueHawk said on 12/21/2009 @ 7:37 pm PT…

Comment @22

But yeah, added than that, acknowledgment for acquainted my Alinsky actualization of attacks! If you like those, you should see my Shmolinsky actualization of wardrobe!

I discharge my pepsi aback I apprehend that…LOL!!!

Classic…friggin’ classic…

add actor to Brad’s resume…

COMMENT #24 [Permalink]… Thrash said on 12/21/2009 @ 8:25 pm PT…

This commodity is so abounding of shit, I’m absolutely bluntly abashed to blow it!

COMMENT #25 [Permalink]… nikto said on 12/21/2009 @ 8:31 pm PT…

In Apprenticeship alone, Mr. Schaeffer is way off by giving Obama pass.

Thousands of Accessible Schools civic are actuality readied to be tipped-over to clandestine Accumulated Ownership, due partly to the advancing efforts of Obama’s own Accumulated Robot Arnie Duncan.

It started with Bush and has pickedup beef beneath Obama.

These and added Apprenticeship Issues,ignored by a complicit Accumulated Media,are authentic brilliantlyon sites such as:

Home

And that’s aloof 1 issue!

COMMENT #26 [Permalink]… Floridiot said on 12/21/2009 @ 8:38 pm PT…

Funny, the wingers anticipate Saul, George, Jeremiah are O’s advisers aback absolutely it was best acceptable Milton and Alisa Rosenbaum. O’s grandma was a agent so we apperceive area his admission came from as he was growing up.Sally is accession that didn’t “wake up” ’til afterwards the amber actuality got ‘lected and afresh went to all the amiss locations to get her alpha up admonition into politics.

COMMENT #27 [Permalink]… Soul Rebel said on 12/21/2009 @ 8:40 pm PT…

Zapkitty – yer awesome!

Sally Hill – accumulate posting…pleeease!

Brad – accumulate responding to Sally.

Frank…well, Frank, I’ve let you apperceive how I feel about your booty in antecedent postings. You should feel advantageous to acquire Brad actuality to *somewhat* avert you, as you avert Obama.

COMMENT #28 [Permalink]… Soul Rebel said on 12/21/2009 @ 9:10 pm PT…

Brad – is this the aforementioned commodity that Aboveboard accidentally appear aftermost week, and afresh had removed…the one I spent an awfully connected time responding to on Frank’s comments about the teacher’s unions?

COMMENT #29 [Permalink]… Coleen Rowley said on 12/21/2009 @ 9:27 pm PT…

Obama has acclimated up his aboriginal year amusement with complete little of the change he promised. As this video of an Iraq veteran’s accent shows, Obama and Bush are continuing calm as they are both “war presidents” now. You can appeal for added backbone and ultimately bodies will acquire little voting best anyway. But it’s able-bodied accustomed that any change bare to arise in this aboriginal year.

COMMENT #30 [Permalink]… zapkitty said on 12/21/2009 @ 9:30 pm PT…

Soul Rebel

No, that was added of a all-encompassing appeal for bodies to angle with him adjoin the ascent beforehand of Obama criticism. He additionally lashed out at accessible academy teachers, of all people, for allegedly arch a cabal adjoin Obama.

(Then afresh Obama is spending a lot of affection controlling time lashing out at accessible academy agents by corporatizing schools adapted and larboard so I assumption Frank’s beforehand fit that mold.)

This commodity is abundant bigger written, added focused with added examples… and is aloof as wrong.

COMMENT #31 [Permalink]… zapkitty said on 12/21/2009 @ 9:36 pm PT…

rats… my animadversion #30 was in acknowledgment to Soul Rebel’s catechism in #28 but I abandoned the attribution…

… and I typo’d “Hellfire MAC” in my animadversion #18…

… nap time!

[ed note: I anchored ’em fer ya. Beddy-bye tight. –99]

COMMENT #32 [Permalink]… renzoku bb.com said on 12/21/2009 @ 10:20 pm PT…

comments 8 and 9 are aciculate and able-bodied aimed. 14 as anytime is atom on. 18 is alarming aciculate and brings best of my credibility home well.

Frank, I acknowledge your afflicted angle and efforts to apprentice more. We’re all alive at that aforementioned task. What best of us actuality are aggravating to say accurately is “Learn faster dude. And admonition us to apprentice faster too.

Take a attending at able predictions of folk like Matt Taibbi and Elliot Spitzer and Dmitry Orlov. Afresh booty a attending at their accuracy. Assuredly amuse booty a abundant best attending at what they’re adage today.

Obama has afflicted the accent of the administration’s propaganda. He’s affective Bush/Cheney calendar added aggressively than they did.

One of the wisest credibility I’ve heard aloft in the aftermost ages is that Obama is accomplishing absolutely what he stated. That account is authentic in that he’s accomplishing absolutely what realists like Naomi Klein categorical any complete Friedman apprentice will do as a died in the complete NeoLiberal. Area Obama collapsed out aria is in the statements acutely advised to woo Progressives.

Statements about affairs to abutment activity and rein in out of ascendancy bandit barons (naming some of them like Walmart), renegotiating NAFTA, bringing aback Built-in Law, bringing allusive change throughout our system.

Frank. No allusive change has taken place. It’s all gotten worse. Granted, the address of accompaniment he apprenticed to about-face about isn’t activity to change admonition bound nor easily. He isn’t axis at all though. In fact, he’s accelerating in the amiss admonition alike while Rahm and all altercate and blast bottomward the Progressives in their own affair as they assure the demagogues like Lieberman and the wingnut Repugs and Dems.

So Frank, amuse save the strawman arguments for a beneath able-bodied abreast crowd. Brad and all abutment our articulacy well. Amuse try to accumulate up with us all better. And acceptable luck on Mike Malloy’s actualization abutting week. I wanna see you do able-bodied so I can get admonition apropos in some allusive address with my still religious adapted ancestors and friends.

Thank you Brad and all, JNps. Let’s all accumulate in apperception how aggressively and finer Rahm, Barak and Biden are absorption US war abyss while abnegation to accomplish their assignment as protectors of Built-in Law. Hell they haven’t alike accursed Karl Rove’s adopted US Attorneys.pps. comments 25 and 26 bedrock too. I accumulate apathy all the accumulated oligarchic absolutist takeovers BushBama’s hasty through. Apparently easier to attending up the agents he’s accumulated (when he wasn’t active ablution complete Progressives) and their careers. Arne Duncan? Tim Geitner? Ben Bernanke? Leura Canary? Rahm Emmanuel? His choices for watchdogs of industry from the bigger offenders in industry? Monsanto? Diebold?….. Seriously, why doesn’t he save us all the altercation and aloof aboveboard put Rove aback in his old appointment space?

COMMENT #33 [Permalink]… Sally Hill said on 12/21/2009 @ 10:29 pm PT…

No claret burden problems here, apologetic to disappoint.

Why is it that aback you Obama supporters run out of excuses for him, you resort to acclimation people’s typo’s, punctuation, spelling, and grammar? LOL It’s become so accustomed place, it charge be in your aphorism book that the Obama affected gives those that are paid bloggers or either aloof beforehand for the job.

Am I accepting I was wrong? Did I lie? – NO, but if it makes you feel bigger to anticipate I was and did, go adapted ahead, or ban me if it would help. I gave you a adduce from their beforehand that backed up what I paraphrased – if you don’t acquire it – afresh do some research, it’s out there.

Why does anybody acquire to be wingnuts and whatever abroad you alarm bodies aloof because they acquire a altered opinion? I acquire argued with you aloof able afterwards resorting to calling you names or aggravating to abase you in any way. It’s alleged account for your adolescent American – too bad the nation as a able no best sees such an aspect as important.

People’s blogs go into athenaeum afterwards awhile, and I column actuality and there and aback it is no best intellectual, I bead the blog and go abroad – I’m not loyal to any one blog. I approved to acquisition a column of abundance from aloof 3 months ago, and couldn’t bethink the blogs name, assuredly begin it, and the able aboriginal column had been removed forth with the comments. I acquire no abstraction why you feel I am lying to you, I’ve told you, I didn’t like Bush any added than I like Obama. I acquire complete problems with the stunts the Bush Admin pulled.

I acquire a abject suspicion that you apperceive able-bodied who Alinsky is, but we can both pretend you don’t if it makes you feel better. It’s complete odd how the aforementioned tricks of the barter are acclimated on these blogs aback the Obama supporters alpha loosing the debate. LOL At aboriginal it agitated me, because it aloof seemed like a arrangement way out – but now that I acquire arise to apperceive the trend and trickery, I acquisition it rather agreeable and apperceive that it’s my cue to move along.

Always the aforementioned – abase the affiche afresh appeal with them to accumulate posting. So if little Johnny goes out on the amphitheater for cafeteria and Harry, Nancy, and Barack consistently alarm him names and abase him – you anticipate he is activity to abide to go out on the amphitheater at cafeteria – or maybe he’ll aloof eat cafeteria in the cafeteria area the intellectuals eat.

Floridiot- the admiral is brown? Humm…I had forgotten, but your right! Aback he was aloft by his white mother and white grandparents, went to predominantly white schools and ivy alliance colleges, he aloof seems white to me, I assumption because he acts aloof like Bush. I assumption that makes me a racist or something. So how would you go about answer my activation aback Bush was in office? Is he a altered blush too and I aloof didn’t apprehension it because of my wingnuttery issues?

Nahhh, annihilation to see here, no complete substance, no complete debate, aloof a lot of name calling, and bent of an opposing position and opinion. All these blog owners annihilate me – they appetite their hit calculation up, appetite bodies to arise and afresh acquiesce aspersing and analytical posts to visitors. No integrity. So connected and farewell, maybe accession new will arise forth that you can alarm names!

Take affliction and Merry Christmas!

COMMENT #34 [Permalink]… Agent 99 said on 12/21/2009 @ 10:37 pm PT…

COMMENT #35 [Permalink]… Brad Friedman said on 12/21/2009 @ 11:35 pm PT…

Nice to see you back, Sally! Is Beck’s re-run already accomplished tonight?

Why is it that aback you Obama supporters run out of excuses for him, you resort to acclimation people’s typo’s, punctuation, spelling, and grammar?

Dunno. Go ask an Obama supporter.

LOL It’s become so accustomed place, it charge be in your aphorism book that the Obama affected gives those that are paid bloggers or either aloof beforehand for the job.

You beggarly the Alinsky aphorism book?! If so, and if it talks about how to be paid to be a blogger, amuse let me apperceive area I can acquisition that book!

Am I accepting I was wrong? Did I lie? – NO, but if it makes you feel bigger to anticipate I was and did, go adapted ahead, or ban me if it would help. I gave you a adduce from their beforehand that backed up what I paraphrased – if you don’t acquire it – afresh do some research, it’s out there.

I assay all day, dear. You offered an unattributed adduce (which you now say is “from their campaign” — who? when? where?) that you say backs up what you paraphrased. However, it doesn’t. So, to repeat, you claimed:

The way he promised that if we were to HURRIEDLY canyon that Blast bill, unemployment would not beat 8%!

And so I asked for affirmation of that “promise”, and you were clumsy to action any. So you afresh acquaint an unattributed adduce from someone, from somewhere, from some time, and affirmation that it backed up the point you were “paraphras[ing]” alike accepting it didn’t alike do that!

The irony here: You were aggravating to actualization how Obama lies, or some such, but had to accomplish up a lie to do it. (Well, you were told that lie by association like Beck and Rush, so you didn’t acquire to accomplish it up all on your own. You aloof bought into their babble abundant to answer it actuality because you, baby Sally, acquire been played for a fool by them. Yet you don’t assume to care.)

Why does anybody acquire to be wingnuts and whatever abroad you alarm bodies aloof because they acquire a altered opinion?

They don’t. By way of example, I disagree with abundant in Frank’s aboriginal commodity above. But I don’t acquire he’s a wingnut. He aloof has a altered — if abreast — assessment on abounding things. You acquire a altered assessment than abundance as well, but castigation is astoundingly misinformed, and wholly based on partisan, America-hating nonsense that you are assertive abundant to answer on a blog in advanced of added people, beneath a pseudonym, which u can afresh carelessness into the night with aback you’ve bootless to awning your already psuedonymous ass.

I acquire argued with you aloof able afterwards resorting to calling you names or aggravating to abase you in any way. It’s alleged account for your adolescent American – too bad the nation as a able no best sees such an aspect as important.

Yes, I know. They are too active calling Obama a Marxist and/or a Absolutist (odd bucking there), or authoritative up attacks like “he promised unemployment wouldn’t go academy than 8%”, and such, to acquire time to respectfully apprentice the FACTS afore acid off their mouths and awkward themselves.

People’s blogs go into athenaeum afterwards awhile, and I column actuality and there and aback it is no best intellectual, I bead the blog and go abroad – I’m not loyal to any one blog.

“Go into archives”? If you larboard a animadversion about your abuse that George W. Bush was aggravating terrorists in U.S. courts, I’m abiding you can acquisition it, and point us to it. You didn’t, so you acquire annihilation to point to, because you didn’t accord a abuse about issues like unemployment, or bloom care, or aggravating terrorists in U.S. court, or defying the architecture aback George W. Bush did it, because you are a plain, transparent, sad little accessory who gave a canyon to America’s affliction Admiral for 8 years, abandoned to arise out now and accurate your “outrage” now that Fox “News” has managed to gin it up in contrarily able-bodied acceptation (hopefully) association like yourself who acquire collapsed for their partisan, America-hating scams.

I approved to acquisition a column of abundance from aloof 3 months ago, and couldn’t bethink the blogs name, assuredly begin it, and the able aboriginal column had been removed forth with the comments. I acquire no abstraction why you feel I am lying to you, I’ve told you, I didn’t like Bush any added than I like Obama. I acquire complete problems with the stunts the Bush Admin pulled.

Good. Afresh you should be able to authenticate the affirmation for that. You’ve already fabricated three comments on this one article. I’m abiding you’ve got HUNDREDS, if not THOUSANDS, of affronted comments of castigation out there you could point me to, announcement your abuse at Bush over the aftermost eight years. Or at atomic you could point me to them, had you absolutely fabricated any.

Again, where’s your abuse over Bush aggravating terrorists in U.S. courts? That oughta be a simple one, accustomed the “outrage” you displayed about a KSM balloon here. I’m abiding you’ve got a cardboard aisle a mile connected accusatory Bush for giving all of those terrorists trials in U.S. courts, right? (Of beforehand you don’t. And we apperceive why. You haven’t said a chatter about it until you were instructed to do so by Fox and accompany a few weeks ago for the complete aboriginal time.)

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I acquire a abject suspicion that you apperceive able-bodied who Alinsky is, but we can both pretend you don’t if it makes you feel better.

Good. Afresh let’s “pretend” I don’t (since I absolutely don’t, assuming is easy). Now let’s pretend that you *do* apperceive who he/she is, aloft Rush and Beck application his/her name all the time (I apprehend them do it too). So now, acquaint me who he/she is please, and what it is that he/she said that you’ve accused me of doing. And acknowledgment afresh in advance! (You won’t account that appeal either, like all the others you’ve bootless on so far. You are 100% FAIL so far in that regard, in case anybody is befitting track.)

It’s complete odd how the aforementioned tricks of the barter are acclimated on these blogs aback the Obama supporters alpha loosing the debate. LOL At aboriginal it agitated me, because it aloof seemed like a arrangement way out – but now that I acquire arise to apperceive the trend and trickery, I acquisition it rather agreeable and apperceive that it’s my cue to move along.

You’re affective along, dear, because you’ve had your ass handed to you, aback you weren’t able to arise up with a distinct atom of the requested affirmation to abutment a distinct “argument” you’ve fabricated here. Not one. I wouldn’t accusation you for dematerialization at all accustomed your sad accomplishment here.

BTW, if you spent any time absolutely educating yourself (watching Fox “News” doesn’t calculation as “educating yourself”) you adeptness acquire abstruse a bit about who you’re talking to, and that I’m not an “Obama supporter”, accepting voted adjoin him in the aftermost acclamation and all. Acceptable grief.

Always the aforementioned – abase the affiche afresh appeal with them to accumulate posting.

No argumentation here. Amuse go away. Or break if you like. But if you stay, be able to aback up your allegations with any affirmation whatsover. You can’t, so you’ll comedy the whining victim card, ala Ann Coulter, and afresh quit, ala Sarah Palin.

So connected and farewell, maybe accession new will arise forth that you can alarm names!

Ouchie, accession got their animosity aching cuz they couldn’t aback up their positions. Not alike once. Bye bye, dear! Don’t let the aperture hit ya area the acceptable aristocrat breach ya.

Take affliction and Merry Christmas!

And a Adored Hanukkah to you!

COMMENT #36 [Permalink]… Soul Rebel said on 12/22/2009 @ 12:29 am PT…

LOL, Brad. Acknowledge you for accomplishing my antecedent appeal (you too, Sally!

I basic to answer two credibility that I would acquire fabricated in acknowledgment to Sally anyway…

Why is it that aback you Obama supporters run out of excuses for him, you resort to acclimation people’s typo’s, punctuation, spelling, and grammar?

Where are these abundant Obama supporters that you assume to be apropos to? And ‘irregardless’ STILL isn’t a word.

It’s complete odd how the aforementioned tricks of the barter are acclimated on these blogs aback the Obama supporters alpha loosing the debate. LOL At aboriginal it agitated me, because it aloof seemed like a arrangement way out – but now that I acquire arise to apperceive the trend and trickery, I acquisition it rather agreeable and apperceive that it’s my cue to move along.

First, ‘loosing’ is not what you mean. You beggarly ‘losing’, as in you are hardly accident this battle. The added word, the one you afield used, would be added like ‘Brad is loosing the Hounds of Don’t Expect That Faux News Applesauce To Fly Actuality on you’.

Second, your cue to move on is that you acquire been spanked. Hard. Twice. I beforehand ice and a bendable cushion. And not actuality so specious.

So…Zapkitty, Brad, (Frank?)…did that commodity that lashed out adjoin teacher’s unions evetually get published? If so, I absent it. SR

COMMENT #37 [Permalink]… Brian R said on 12/22/2009 @ 1:01 am PT…

This is an onion commodity right?

I can’t acquire that this is actuality accustomed by you Brad!But I adulation Carelessness OK actuality we go.

Continued the draw bottomward the baseborn war in Iraq

-actually the cardinal of abreast apprenticed troops rose in Iraq.

Thoughtfully and absolutely best the best of several bad choices apropos the war in Afghanistan

-actually bigger options do exist,(education) and Im afraid you anticipate ascent war is NOW a acceptable abstraction as we are activity broke.

Gave a aloft precedent-setting accent acknowledging gay rights

..as drones attacks are overextension into Pakistan, and White Phospherous is acclimated adjoin Palestinians.

Restored America’s angel about the globe

My catechism is- how does a boyhood win Presidency afterwards 2 blatently baseborn elections? Pyschology baby Watson, and you see the emperor in his clothing.

Banned ache of American prisoners

How are you sure?Yes, to you and the TV, he may say “torture is banned”, but aback you say that as a actuality to me you complete like accession who thinks admiral begin “WMD’s in Iraq.” You are repeating propaganda.

Stopped the chargeless abatement of the American economy

It isn’t over yet bud! Over 10% official unemployment, 140 bootless banks this year, bartering and residential sales still way down, foreclosures up, added taxes with beneath services, bailouts that 99 to 1 was not basic so on and so on. Oh and he is amidst by the bodies that admonition actualize the problem, sweet…. Goldman Sachs of America

Put the USA absolutely aback in the mutual all-embracing community

-don’t you see the abrogating furnishings of globalism and all-embracing “relations” yet?

Put the USA absolutely into the average of the all-embracing accomplishment to arrest all-around warming

-While burying a garden is good, the carbon arrangement is bad. We don’t apperceive abundant yet about how temperature and C02 collaborate with anniversary other, and the complete agitation has been bought for profits. (Its corrupted)

Stood up for educational reform

No adolescent larboard abaft ledgislation: not larboard behind.The arrangement infact is accepting worse and abounding agents are adverse cuts and layoffs Frank, I date one of them.

Won a Nobel accord prize

-Are you SERIOUS? Yeah , and he added the war, on all fronts; Pakistan, Iraq, Afghanistan.

Moved the balloon of terrorists aback into the American administrative arrangement of checks and balances

-Oh Frank, if abandoned those courts would apprehend the affirmation of nano-thermite in the dust, a aerial brand advancing damaging and explosive.Please stop acknowledging the lies of 9/11 Frank, forth with arena off of agitation and fear, it makes you attending silly.

Did what had to be done to alpha the slow, advancing and about cool activity of bloom affliction ameliorate that 7 presidents had bootless to alike begin

I wont start, but in short, I dont appetite your pills or shots. Accumulate your “healthcare.”If you don’t see the corruption, I ambition you the best. You’ll be advantageous for it, one way or another.

Responded to abhorrence from the Adapted and Larboard with abstinent acceptable amusement and patience

-yawn…Bush was a “friendly” guy too Frank! Deathwatch up!

Stopped the chargeless abatement of job losses

Not so much..but hey Im animated your accomplishing good!

Showed immense claimed adventuresomeness in the face of an armed and alarming far Adapted activity that included the array of abominable bodies that actualization up at accessible address accustomed loaded weapons and accustomed Timothy McVeigh-inspired signs about the “blood of tyrants” defective to “water the timberline of liberty”…

-So were you praising Bush as he was actuality pelted by tomato’s and eggs in DC at his baseborn commencement for his courage? Maybe there is acrimony from both carelessness for reasons…and maybe I don’t affliction how big their boots are, get the F out of the average east Frank!

Showed that he could not abandoned accomplish the boxy advancing choices but explain and avert them brilliantly

-Ah, like Hitler!

and afresh you say this:

Who absolutely has failed…

…are the Americans that can’t see the alpha of a phenomenon of civic activation adapted beneath their blah noses.

It is absolutely alarming that you said that Frank. The aforementioned was said during the 30’s in Germany as announcement campaigns during acerbic noncombatant liberties, accretion army, and a breakable society.

But there were the propagandists Frank, some were paid, others artlessly misinformed. The one’s that said how abundant Hitler was, adjoin all evidence.

Do you accord to either group?

I don’t celebrate, but cheers.

COMMENT #38 [Permalink]… Agent 99 said on 12/22/2009 @ 1:41 am PT…

COMMENT #39 [Permalink]… Soul Rebel said on 12/22/2009 @ 1:53 am PT…

I do now. He was a complete bastard, wasn’t he Sally? Acclimation to beforehand anniversary others lives?! What will they anticipate of next?

I didn’t get a faculty of to what “tricks of the trade” Sally adeptness acquire been referring. Was it actuality honest about the abominable accomplishments to which individuals and organizations contribute?

It’s a abuse acceptable day aback I apprentice commodity new. Thanks, Sally!

COMMENT #40 [Permalink]… czaragorn said on 12/22/2009 @ 3:09 am PT…

What a agglomeration of hooey! Sorry, Frank, but I’m not affairs it – I’m gonna acquire my own lyin’ eyes.

COMMENT #41 [Permalink]… czaragorn said on 12/22/2009 @ 3:36 am PT…

This is about a able lot added than Abomina “winning” – such a baby concept. The ambition is for the bodies of the US, and absolutely the bodies of the world, to alive bigger lives. It’s not a goddamned game, with “winners” and “losers.” I appetite a admiral who says what he agency and agency what he says, and I’m apologetic to say I acquire not apparent annihilation accidentally akin bluntness from the new war criminal-in-chief. Slaughtering innocent peasants in asperous mountains on the added ancillary of the apple by sending remote-controlled destruction, controlled by a agglomeration of cowardly, arduous video bold geeks “working” 8-hour accouterment in Florida, all to brownnose to the deposit ammunition barons – as accession abreast and baby to us all adeptness say, “Pfeh!” He can put his Accord Award-winning area the sun don’t shine…

COMMENT #42 [Permalink]… Agent 99 said on 12/22/2009 @ 4:04 am PT…

This Glenn Greenwald allotment about Obama’s noncombatant liberties almanac and the conception of a tiered [aka fascist] amends arrangement won the top award-winning [Top Quark] of the 3quarksdaily best accessories of the year… as advised by Tariq Ali, and it is absolutely a absoluteness assay about the affection of this administration.

COMMENT #43 [Permalink]… Agent 99 said on 12/22/2009 @ 4:06 am PT…

Pfeh, indeed, my dear! Abounding acquire taken to aloof calling it the “War Prize”. Saves a lot of agreeable and beard advancing and stomping and casting advanced and banging yer arch on yer monitor….

COMMENT #44 [Permalink]… Big Dan said on 12/22/2009 @ 6:32 am PT…

COMMENT #45 [Permalink]… Stentorian Cheeze said on 12/22/2009 @ 7:56 am PT…

Frank is annihilation if not stirring… this is the best comments I’ve apparent acquaint actuality in some while. Praising Obama and acumen for him abiding did get us affronted up.

I’ve afresh been over account Andrew Bard Schmookler at www.nonesoblind.org… decidedly apropos the attributes of angry and the actuality that we should be calling out that attributes whenever we see it.

On the distinct affair of the assembly bloom affliction bill Obama and his bodies acquire fostered stripping out the Accessible Option, while disingenuously claiming to abutment that position… address apocryphal witness.By 2014 not accepting bloom affliction will be a abomination and a fineable offense… mandating payments to clandestine bloom insurers.The far adapted has claimed Obama is a Socialist… able-bodied that is true, a Accumulated Socialist. Afresh afresh maybe he is advantageous aback the $20 actor he accustomed in beforehand funds anatomy the bloom affliction industry. Quid Pro Quo…. which I acquire is actionable or conceivably I absent the abolishment of that law.

Bottom bandage for me is Obama is the Saruman of our age, a aureate tongued astrologer of words.Still… I’m apprehensive who the Sauron of our age absolutely is?

COMMENT #46 [Permalink]… Crosstimbers said on 12/22/2009 @ 8:02 am PT…

You said it for me, Frank. I’m absolutely aghast with blah adept kids on the left, who now dogmatically crave simplistic answers in the aforementioned way the apprenticed adapted has for three decades. For abounding of them, it aloof seems an advancing account of their own claimed failures. “I coulda been a contender, if abandoned the apple had been organized as I anticipate it should be.” I assumption it was consistently easier to shoot spitballs from the the aback of the chic than absolutely booty albatross for anything.

COMMENT #47 [Permalink]… Jim Cirile said on 12/22/2009 @ 10:00 am PT…

First time in the 5 years I’ve been account this blog that I’ve anytime apparent an commodity that was not aces of this site. I would accredit Mr. Schaeffer to the accessories by Ernest Canning on the complete site. Afterwards 8 years of Bush, we should all be FAR added perceptive. While Obama’s address and agreeableness are aloft dispute, his behavior and appointees are 100% BUSH. Hell, there’s alike a abode for Dana Perino in the Obama administration. That abandoned tells you all you charge to know.

It’s alleged the ‘flat tire’ principle. You admission an alignment or aggregation with accession assuming to be on board, but their complete cold is to obfuscate, baptize bottomward and/or anticipate any *real* change or progress. And in fact, as multi-award-winning announcer John Pilger accurately observes, Obusha’s aboriginal job afterwards academy was alive for CIA advanced aggregation American All-embracing Corp., who amid added things did absolutely that–infiltrate Australian advanced groups with stealth right-wingers.

And that is what we acquire with Obusha. Abandoned words of accomplishment and change while in actuality we abide to chase the Neocon “Project for a New American Century” playbook. We acquire now broadcast the war advanced into yemen and are militarizing Colombia as we admission up to hit Venezuela, while we coin abstracts about Iran’s nuclear objectives’ to absolve antibacterial Iran via proxy (Israel.)

Cheney’s duke is still durably on the till. His agent is now artlessly a lot added absorbing and bright than the aftermost one. But the perfidy remains.

COMMENT #48 [Permalink]… oldtree said on 12/22/2009 @ 10:02 am PT…

Succeeding at what?Frank, you still alive in a fantasy apple of adoration and faith. You charge acquire what you say because you are sincere. This is acutely troubling, as accepting and analytical cerebration do not go duke in hand. They are at acute ends of the spectrum. They can never assignment calm because science requires proof. You acquire calmly abandoned the affirmation that our new admiral has taken the crimson of our old one, and done little or annihilation to change.Our admiral has succumbed to every appeal from those still in power. He has accurate to be either a liar, or a puppet. I do not see a average arena as a aftereffect of those accomplishments he has taken, and those that he has not.Faith equals delusion. It is the easiest way out of reality.

COMMENT #49 [Permalink]… czaragorn said on 12/22/2009 @ 10:09 am PT…

Thank you, Mr. Cirile – couldn’t acquire summed it up better, at atomic afterwards ample effort. What scares the bejeezus out of me is how agleam the wrapping cardboard on this Obamanation of a law (Man! They FINE you if you can’t acquiesce to pay their abject prices for bloom insurance???) is, and how little we all apperceive of what lies within. Funny, I generally anticipation of Abomina and Tiger in alongside tracks. Accurateness is, they’re both sluts…

COMMENT #50 [Permalink]… Ernest A. Canning said on 12/22/2009 @ 10:34 am PT…

In “Americans Are Hell-Bent on Tyranny”, Paul Craig Roberts, a aloft affiliate of the Reagan administration, observed:

Obama’s abbreviating bandage of authentic believers has taken affection that their man has assuredly delivered on one of his abounding promises — the closing of the Guantanamo prison.…

In truth, Obama has handed his supporters accession defeat. Closing Guantanamo meant abeyance to authority bodies in abuse of our acknowledged attack of habeas bulk and due process…

All Obama would be accomplishing would be affective 100 people, adjoin whom the US government is clumsy to accompany a case, from the bastille in Guantanamo to a bastille in Thomson, Illinois.

COMMENT #51 [Permalink]… Mitch Trachtenberg said on 12/22/2009 @ 10:47 am PT…

Richard Fritzon, #9, is absolutely and about adapted on.

Obama is an amazing orator, a complete acute man, and a animation of alpha air afterwards his predecessor. He’s no leader, unless by administering you beggarly the adeptness to accommodation abroad all appropriateness until you get a “win”.

I accomplishment no one EVER forgets what HIS bread-and-butter aggregation did to this country, aback they had a once-in-a-lifetime befalling to accompany about change.

COMMENT #52 [Permalink]… CharlieL said on 12/22/2009 @ 10:52 am PT…

Well, aboriginal I appetite to acknowledge the now-departed Sally for axis me on to Saul Alinsky (I googled Alinsky and bound begin the URL that Agent99 supplied at #38).

As usual, he looks like a complete absorbing actuality who fabricated admirable and able contributions to amusing capitalism in the USA. Of couse, I can brainstorm that Faux Liars charge abhorrence him for his acceptable assignment for the downtrodden.

As for the OP, able-bodied I do acquire that Schaeffer is absolutely and absolutely off base, and additionally application bad tricks to altercate (as has already been able-bodied declared aloft by bigger articulaters than I).

I anticipate it charge be adamantine for a “turnaround” like Mr. Schaeffer (and I account his “conversion” and his “apologias” greatly) to arise ALL the way to the added side.

The adeptness of that accepting that “the Democrats and The Rethuglicans are complete different” is great.

The accurateness that the majority of the House, Assembly and White Abode Democrats and Republicans are endemic by the accumulated oligarchs and that the differences amid them are mostly apish to beforehand the altered factions of the citizenry in their abstracted corners is harder to acquire and see.

It was said (Napoleon? Marx?) that “Religion is what keeps the poor from killing the rich.”

I anticipate that the two affair arrangement is what keeps the bodies from killing the politicians. Two abounding bodies abhorrence ONE SIDE or THE OTHER and acquire THEIR ancillary is activity to break the problems aback they acquire power.

The accurateness is that POWER is in the calmly of the accumulated state, and that they ascendancy the best of candidates, whether you are acceptable to vote, and how your vote gets counted, and that WE THE PEOPLE acquire about no adeptness added than to absorb our money and be acceptable cogs in the accumulated machine.

I am not adage we charge carelessness the balloter activity or either of the parties, but we should be absolutely acquainted of the bold we are playing, and how abominably ample adjoin us the accouter is.

COMMENT #53 [Permalink]… zapkitty said on 12/22/2009 @ 10:54 am PT…

O.T. but relevant: Grisjalva of the Abode Progressives…

… “the aftermost best accomplishment to stop this adversity of a ‘reform’ bill”…

… has aloof acutely and advisedly signaled that the Abode Progressives will abate on their assorted accounting and video-recorded promises about a accessible advantage and will instead assignment with Pelosi to force this corporate-mandated bits sandwich bottomward America’s aggregate throat.

That didn’t booty long, did it?

COMMENT #54 [Permalink]… czaragorn said on 12/22/2009 @ 10:55 am PT…

Amen! It feels as if all were assuredly lost. Let us accomplishment it’s a apocryphal impression. In any case, I’ll be added than adored to admonition any of you get acclimatized actuality in the acceptable old affable old world. Adored trails, podners…

COMMENT #55 [Permalink]… Mitch Trachtenberg said on 12/22/2009 @ 10:55 am PT…

Oh, and a calendar to Frank. The others who acquire said this are, in my opinion, absolutely correct. Congratulations on artifice your cult. Amuse bethink that you are affected to them. And amuse acquire the appropriateness and accustomed faculty not to insult those who’ve never abutting cults.

You like Obama. Peachy-keen. You’ll abound up someday, or conceivably you won’t.

COMMENT #56 [Permalink]… Ernest A. Canning said on 12/22/2009 @ 11:01 am PT…

I acquaint animadversion #51 to accomplish ablaze to any who acquire not apprehend my accessories that Aboveboard Schaeffer and I do not accede on this authentic topic.

But so what? Diversity of assessment enriches the agreeable of this blog.

It is advancing aback I see some on the Larboard repeating the acerbic akin of address that we usually accessory with wing-nuts on the Right.

Those who acquire challenged Mr. Schaeffer’s bookish accommodation or his artlessness are way out of line.

Those who acquire chastised Brad for including a appearance that does not aboveboard with endemic do not apprehend that Brad’s ambition is to both accommodate complete agreeable on the basic issues of our time and a ample ambit of admiring dialogue.

That doesn’t beggarly that anyone has to acquire what I, Aboveboard or Brad acquire to say on a accustomed topic. The accouterment of complete affidavit for abnegation any point acquaint are a acceptable addition, that, like the ambit of address reflected in a allegory of this allotment to mine, enriches us all.

COMMENT #57 [Permalink]… Ernest A. Canning said on 12/22/2009 @ 11:03 am PT…

Correction to my last, comment. My beforehand animadversion was #50.

COMMENT #58 [Permalink]… Brian R said on 12/22/2009 @ 11:07 am PT…

Brad-This would not be accustomed at a accurateness emergency summit…You apperceive it, this is Bull.

COMMENT #59 [Permalink]… Glix said on 12/22/2009 @ 11:16 am PT…

Lots of active exploding these days. It’s nice to see a alive assay of area we are. Some on the larboard are accepting a frown at the moment but best will get over it and apprehend that we are headed in the adapted direction. We’ve got the adapted Admiral who has keeps his arch aback all about him are accident theirs.

COMMENT #60 [Permalink]… Off the Grid said on 12/22/2009 @ 11:33 am PT…

Obama a success?Sure, if you don’t plan on active on EARTH.

COMMENT #61 [Permalink]… Kim Kaufman said on 12/22/2009 @ 11:50 am PT…

So abounding complete inforned comments here! Acknowledgment everyone, I absolutely acknowledge account bodies so abundant added abreast than I. I acquaint abundance so bound afterwards proofing and apologize for bad typos. Brad: I am not illiterate, was aloof in a hurry!

During Bush years, Machiavelli was the advantaged writer. Now adapted wingers are all account Saul Alinsky to try and accept his techniques for their purposes.

And my admired Christmas present for myself is that you’ll be on Molloy all abutting week. And that you accommodate MP3s aback I’m generally in ballet chic during his show!

Happy holidays to all.

COMMENT #62 [Permalink]… Jim Cirile said on 12/22/2009 @ 12:02 pm PT…

COMMENT #63 [Permalink]… renzoku bb.com said on 12/22/2009 @ 12:11 pm PT…

Frank,I’m not audition a able lot from you arresting the credibility made. I’m absorbed what you anticipate of some of the bigger researched references fabricated to added writers and facts accustomed that abnegate your opinions.

Ernest,I’m apologetic or not if agitation opinions with adverse and ablaze facts seems rude. Best of us are aggravating to accumulate level, ablaze and calm here. Apropos to added blogs’ comments, I anticipate we’re about all accomplishing appealing able-bodied here.

Brad,gotta beam aback I see the laser focus of accession cogent you this is balderdash that would never fly at a accurateness emergency summit. Allocution about acid through all the crust and afresh adapted through the point. Gracias Brian R comment58.

Think it was Orlov who gave BushBama the Gorbachev award. He’s managing the abatement of the authority the aforementioned way Gorbachev did. Wasn’t it Scott Ritter arguing with Stephanie Miller aftermost ages who acicular out that Gorbachev was warned he bare 650,000 troops to admission Afghanistan to get the job done? Yeh and attending how able-bodied Gorby’s action formed out aback he beatific too few with too little armor up adjoin stinger missiles while his own abridgement was overextended and abolition all about him.

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Thank you afresh Brad for the belvedere and the accumulation of folk who you’ve fatigued actuality to accompany out facts and applique them together.

Please continue. Renzoku BB

COMMENT #64 [Permalink]… greg0 said on 12/22/2009 @ 1:12 pm PT…

Yes, it abiding looks like association are divided. It’s not too hasty aback you see who owns the media.Okay, I’m a bit of a carper also. Why is bloom allowance aggregation banal zooming up? But then, who will affirmation accomplishment if this bloom bill fails?Looking at the Congressional votes for 2009, the obstructionism of the Republicans is undeniable. They alike approved to delay a aegis appropriations bill! If they absolutely win added seats in 2010, will they shut bottomward the government?Maybe Obama should arise out acerb for life, another and the following of beatitude aloof to get the Republicans and media to disagree.

COMMENT #65 [Permalink]… Conceal said on 12/22/2009 @ 1:15 pm PT…

There was a broadcast “Sally” on several Democratic blogs during the 2004 elections. Could this be the aforementioned Sally, or accession application the name because it is able-bodied known. Conceivably bodies already got this and I absent it.

COMMENT #66 [Permalink]… Soul Rebel said on 12/22/2009 @ 1:39 pm PT…

Just alert to Norman Goldman subbing for Ed Shultz. Obama gave an account bygone about the bloom affliction bill. In it he said that the accessible advantage was aloof adumbrative of an brainy position or some such shit. Apparently it is not adumbrative of acceptable activity that will admonition the American people.

Done. With. Obama.

COMMENT #67 [Permalink]… Brad Friedman said on 12/22/2009 @ 2:28 pm PT…

Agent 99 @ 38 said:

Jesus, Brad. Everybody knows who Saul Alinsky was.

Well, I assumption we do now. Thanks, Niners. He seems like an complete monster.

Little admiration Sally is clumsy to acknowledge as to what is amiss with him, or what “rule book” is actuality followed, or whatever that nonsense is she was blindly repeating from Rush and Beck w/out aggravation to apprentice if it absolutely has any accord to absoluteness or not afore accomplishing so.

He’s artlessly ghastly, isn’t he?

COMMENT #68 [Permalink]… Brad Friedman said on 12/22/2009 @ 2:36 pm PT…

Soul Rebel way up @ 39 asked:

So…Zapkitty, Brad, (Frank?)…did that commodity that lashed out adjoin teacher’s unions evetually get published? If so, I absent it. SR

The commodity you accredit to (on which Aboveboard hit PUBLISH rather than SAVE TO DRAFTS accidentally) hasn’t been published. Not yet, anyway. Aboveboard generally submits several altered versions of accessories as he’s alive on them, and as I try to accumulate up with them (particularly while on the road, as I’ve been for the aftermost several weeks).

When/if that one absolutely runs, it will accommodate the comments you larboard on it afore we accomplished it had appear accidentally, if abandoned briefly (though connected abundant for u to apprehend and comment, of course, alike as it wasn’t accessible to absolutely be apparent yet.)

Sorry for the abashing there!

COMMENT #69 [Permalink]… gavbrown said on 12/22/2009 @ 2:45 pm PT…

This is one of the best anxious and absorbing posts I’ve apparent on the Net for a while from one of the best absorbing characters out there adapted now. Mr. Schaeffer’s abandonment of his bourgeois religio-political angle and able accepting of a appearance anon adverse to aggregate he already believed in addled me from the moment I aboriginal saw him on TV as sincere, passionate, and maybe unique. I consistently accord him adapted absorption aback I apprehend from him because of this. He’s acutely intelligent. This announcement contains so much, and is so abounding of thoughtful, amorous advancement that I am addled quiet by it – it is a different articulation out there now I do acquire – I appetite to anticipate on what he has said for some time afore I adjudge anything. I charge time to reflect. Acknowledgment to Brad for hosting this important voice.

COMMENT #70 [Permalink]… zapkitty said on 12/22/2009 @ 2:46 pm PT…

COMMENT #71 [Permalink]… Ernest A. Canning said on 12/22/2009 @ 2:51 pm PT…

renzoku bb.com said

Ernest,I’m apologetic or not if agitation opinions with adverse and ablaze facts seems rude.__________________________

Not at all. To the contrary, that blazon of acknowledgment to Frank’s “Obama is wonderful” altercation is absolutely appropriate.

You will acquisition it, for example, in RICHARD FRITZSON’s bright animadversion #9 and in Coleen Rowley’s (comment #29) abbreviate but able rebuttal.

You will acquisition that to be the admission I activated in “Beyond Afghanistan”, area I parsed the abandoned address acclimated by the Admiral during his Dec. 1 Afghan accretion speech. You will additionally see that admission activated by me in Progressives of America – Unite!

Where I draw the line, aback it comes to rudeness, can be found, for example, in DAVID LIPSCOMB, animadversion #19:

Frank, I would alarm you an bookish lightweight, but you aren’t that smart.

You can disagree; articulation to added articles, present a abiding altercation that Frank’s “opinion” is unfounded. But you don’t charge to claiming his bookish accommodation or his artlessness to accomplish that point — at atomic not unless you are ambidextrous with accession like Rush Limbaugh who has no candor and should be alleged out for that abridgement of integrity.

COMMENT #72 [Permalink]… Agent 99 said on 12/22/2009 @ 2:53 pm PT…

Brad @ 67

Personally, I acquire no use for backer “leftists”, and the absorption taken in him by Hillary and Admiral Walking Eagle [they airing because they’re too abounding of bits to fly]—merciless chic warriors both—has bedraggled his almanac considerably, but, well, yes, I anticipate the adapted has approved to ACORN Alinsky’s memory… and maybe alike are succeeding.

COMMENT #73 [Permalink]… Comrade Zapalinskykitty said on 12/22/2009 @ 2:58 pm PT…

… Brad said…

Agent 99 @ 38 said:Jesus, Brad. Everybody knows who Saul Alinsky was.

Well, I assumption we do now. Thanks, Niners. He seems like an complete monster.

Don’t try to run from us Brad… the Central Commissariat still has photocopies of your associates agenda on file.

COMMENT #74 [Permalink]… Alex said on 12/22/2009 @ 3:02 pm PT…

I am absolutely afraid by the cardinal of association who able heartedly acclaimed Mr. Schaeffer. I accede that every so generally in this contemptuous media we harp on the abrogating and we charge a admonition of the positives. I acquire Mr Schaeffer went too far in his attempt. I am animated there were affluence of others who disagreed like myself with the agreeable and accomplishments of the administration. I am additionally animated they were able to armpit acceptable sources for their arguements.I am apologetic for those who angry to name calling. I additionally acknowledge Brad for anecdotic the false-fact opiners on the site.A animadversion I forgot to acknowledgment afore was: Afterwards bodies are overcharged for their allowance to the point they can not acquiesce it, and end up bottomward their coverage, will they they be fined/jailed for not accepting insurance? Or will this be a way to gradually get anybody into a government distinct payer system, because the acquisitive clandestine allowance companies will bulk themselves out of the majority of the population. The botheration with this book is that it will crave abounding years of annihilative the cyberbanking assets of the abbreviating average chic to ability that breaking point.The final allowance bill (it’s not a bloom affliction bill because it does little to annihilation about pharmaceuticals, bloom affliction providers or abomination reform, as baby as it is) that goes to Obama (who will assurance annihilation to affirmation a victory), I hope, will not acquire the allowance claim in it or there will be Built-in challenges to the the law.

COMMENT #75 [Permalink]… Tom Belt said on 12/22/2009 @ 3:45 pm PT…

This guy (Obama) could not beforehand a horse to water. He does not acquire what it takes to be a leader.His accomplishments abide of: 1) Ascent the war in Afghanistan. That’s it!As far as I can see this administering is a assiduity of the Bush tragedy in sheep’s clothing. We are still in Iraq and will never leave. We are ascent in Afghanistan and will never leave. Iran has aerial itself into a able position, Israel is still out of control, there is still rendition, Gitmo is still open, eavesdropping is rampant, the White Abode is still angry at every about-face to become accessible and accessible to complete people, clandestine deals are still actuality fabricated in the White House, GWs assembly are actuality answer and the bloom affliction bill has become a bond out for the allowance companies.We are fucked. If you can’t see that there is commodity amiss with you.

COMMENT #76 [Permalink]… Chris Hooten said on 12/22/2009 @ 7:08 pm PT…

Quicky from #22:

Brad Friedman said,

“Irregardless” is not a word. Aloof FYI.

actually it *is* a word, it is aloof not the adopted one of the two. It is absolutely in abounding dictionaries. I arise to like it, also. It may not accomplish *logical* sense, but it sounds added adapted aback acclimated for affecting effect.

COMMENT #77 [Permalink]… Agent 99 said on 12/22/2009 @ 7:15 pm PT…

irregardless |ˌiriˈgärdlis|adjective & adverb informalregardless.

ORIGIN aboriginal 20th cent.: apparently a alloy of irrespective and behindhand .

USAGE Irregardless, with its casuistic abrogating prefix, is broadly heard, conceivably arising beneath the admission of such altogether actual forms as : irrespective. Irregardless is abhorred by accurate users of English. Use behindhand to beggarly ‘without absorption or application for’ or ‘nevertheless’: : I go walking every day behindhand of division or weather.

COMMENT #78 [Permalink]… Soul Rebel said on 12/22/2009 @ 7:32 pm PT…

George Carlin commented on the appearance of “popular usage” – including the words “usage”, “irregardless”, “momentarily”, and “forte”.

“Fuck accepted usage.”

COMMENT #79 [Permalink]… Agent 99 said on 12/22/2009 @ 8:06 pm PT…

Popular accepting is both the adorableness and the affliction of the English language. Sometimes it saves everything, and sometimes it pisses bodies off added than it helps anything. As for me, I ambition we’d aloof beforehand to apperception account and balloon the weight of accent altogether.

COMMENT #80 [Permalink]… Soul Rebel said on 12/22/2009 @ 9:15 pm PT…

Oh, but accent is a admirable thing.

Here’s some:

“Nowhere has there been a bigger gap amid the perceptions of accommodation and the realities of accommodation than in the health-care bill,” Obama said in an Oval Appointment account with The Washington Column about his aldermanic almanac this year. “Every distinct belief for ameliorate I put advanced is in this bill.”

COMMENT #81 [Permalink]… Soul Rebel said on 12/22/2009 @ 11:28 pm PT…

An accomplished allotment by Prof. David Michael Green of Hofstra. Ambition he had been my PoliSci advisor.

COMMENT #82 [Permalink]… czaragorn said on 12/23/2009 @ 12:56 am PT…

Thanks, Soul Rebel, for

“Every distinct belief for ameliorate I put advanced is in this bill.”

There goes Abomina, botching the use of criterion. Oh well, he apparently thinks of himself as a “quality president.” At atomic he can accent “nuclear”…

COMMENT #83 [Permalink]… Floridiot said on 12/23/2009 @ 6:07 am PT…

Gotta watch this now, there are some new accessible bloom centers gonna be activity up about the country, they’re aloof not announcement them too loudly…might agitated the teabaggers.

Bernie accustomed funds for 2 added in Vermont.Read amid the curve afterwards the bill becomes law.

I accelerate my earlier uninsured boys to the (free) dispensary in Brooksville on Saturdays if they acquire a problem, little wait, no bill, acceptable account (so they acquaint me).

COMMENT #84 [Permalink]… Lisa said on 12/23/2009 @ 6:35 am PT…

On this anniversary of anniversary acclamation (oh brother), I couldn’t admonition but chortle out loud with Brad’s adjournment of baby Sally’s comments. Acknowledgment for authoritative my day. I absolutely bare that.

And Frank, don’t let up. I am acclaim for Obama and adapted now, complete disappointed. I’m aggravating to accumulate my argot and your account will admonition me ‘keep the faith’ that this new administering will somehow accomplish things right. I still acquire hope.

Happy holidays everyone.

COMMENT #85 [Permalink]… A Elam said on 12/23/2009 @ 6:59 am PT…

Give him a chance? We did!

In anniversary and every case Obama has formed mightily to adjustment and strewngthen a abject cachet quo.

Health affliction reform? Yeah, From the begining his ambition was to accumulate the accustomed abject and inefficient arrangement and force tens of millions added to by the abandoned accessories of the allowance monopolies. A few tweeks were added to pretend to accommodate complete “change we can acquire in.”

The abandoned jobs he adequate are on Wall Street. How can the CEOs and CFOs collevt those multi-million dollar bonuses if their companies weren’t paid hundreds of billions in subsidies? Meanwhile Larry Lunchbucket suffers! And Obama aloof keeps accepting admonition and activity from the aforementioned abject aggregation that got us into this mess… Now we apperceive why “Wall Street” gave him added money than any added applicant from either party.

I could go on, but am too disgusted. Obama is aloof a Pied Piper for fools who appetite to avoid his accouterment to the admiral that be. They’ll acquire to his brim and chase him to disaster.

Dump Obama and get a REAL abstracted in 2012!

COMMENT #86 [Permalink]… BlueHawk said on 12/23/2009 @ 7:01 am PT…

Agent 99 @79

As for me, I ambition we’d aloof beforehand to apperception account and balloon the weight of accent altogether.

HERE! HERE!

A acknowledgment to our aboriginal state…telepathic/empathic communication.

COMMENT #87 [Permalink]… Agent 99 said on 12/23/2009 @ 12:34 pm PT…

BlueHawk

I meant that… deeply.

xoxoxox

COMMENT #88 [Permalink]… Jim Cirile said on 12/23/2009 @ 2:43 pm PT…

Correction: Business All-embracing Corp., (BIC) not American All-embracing Corp., was the CIA advanced aggregation Obusha acclimated to assignment for (and apparently still does.)

COMMENT #89 [Permalink]… akw said on 12/24/2009 @ 5:43 am PT…

“We affectionate Obama supporters still assurance our antecedent consequence of him as a great, acceptable and abnormally able man to beforehand us.

Obama’s abiding supporters will be accurate right. Obama’s critics will be remembered as calmly afraid and anon beat at best and anhydrous abhorrence mongers at worst…”

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In added words, you begin a NEW god and you feel like you acquire to avert him adjoin all who don’t adoration him as you do.

COMMENT #90 [Permalink]… aboveboard schaeffer said on 12/24/2009 @ 7:42 am PT…

Hi All: acknowledgment for the comments on my commodity and for David’s commodity too.

Meanwhile aback on planet apple the US Assembly aloof fabricated history with the aboriginal footfall in allusive bloom affliction reform.

Best, Frank

PS.

Re Obama, responses to my pro-Obama piece, and responses to the responses…. etc. Calendar that Andrew Sullivan says it able-bodied in the Atlantic. So rather than go aback through aggregate afresh and afresh for the Obama critics actuality it is from Sullivan. (The Atlantic Dec 23, 09).

http://andrewsullivan.th…9/12/meep-meep.html#more

By Andrew Sullivan

My own appearance is that 2009 has been an abnormally acknowledged year for Obama. Aback this is currently a boyhood appearance and will alert a choir of “In The Tank!”, acquiesce me to explain.

The absolute almanac is ablaze enough. Ache is ended, if Gitmo charcoal awfully difficult to abutting and arrangement acutely adamantine to police. The unitary executive, claiming vast, absolute admiral over American citizens, has been unwound. The acknowledged inquiries that may able-bodied captive aloft Bush admiral for war crimes are underway, and the balloon of KSM will acknowledge the anarchic atrocity of the Cheney administering that did so abundant to demolition our war on Jihadism. Advancing force adjoin al Qaeda in Pakistan has been ratcheted up considerably, alike at a noncombatant bulk that charcoal about troubling. The US has accustomed apprehension that it intends to leave Afghanistan with a blast – a big surge, a about-face in tactics, and a abundant accumulation of new troops. Iraq charcoal dodgy in the extreme, but at atomic March elections acquire been assuredly nailed down.

Domestically, the new admiral has rescued the banks in a bail-out that has arise in at $200 billion beneath budget; the abridgement has confused from a coast to stablilization and some anticipation of job beforehand abutting year; the Dow is at 10,500 a akin no one would acquire predicted this time aftermost year. A blast amalgamation has helped undergird basement and apparently did added to beforehand non-carbon activity than annihilation that adeptness acquire emerged from Copenhagen. Universal bloom allowance (with promised arrears reduction!) is approaching – a ambition approved by Democrats (and Nixon) for decades, cool beneath the centrist Clinton, but won assuredly by a atramentous advanced president. Added beforehand has been fabricated in unraveling the war on drugs this able year than in active memory. The transformation of California into a accompaniment area pot is now added accessible than in Amsterdam is as arresting as the actuality that such new acumen has advance aloft the country and is at celebrated highs, so to speak, in the assessment polls. On noncombatant rights, noncombatant alliance came to the nation’s basic city, which has a 60 percent atramentous population. If that doesn’t admonition about-face some of the anguish from Prop 8 and Maine, what would? And, yes, the abominable ban on HIV-positive foreigners was assuredly lifted, bringing the US aback to the centermost of the all-around accomplishment to action AIDS as it should be.

Relations with Russia acquire bigger badly and may crop complete assets in non-proliferation; Netanyahu has moved, about insincerely, adjoin a two-state solution; Iran’s accomplishment administering charcoal far added accessible than a year ago, bedridden in its diplomacy, abashed of its own bodies and consistently annoyed by the advancing revolution; Pakistan launched a aloft abhorrent adjoin al Qaeda and the Taliban in its bound area; all-around assessment of the US has been transformed; the Cairo accent and the Nobel accepting accent helped explain absolutely what Obama’s alloy of adamant accuracy for conflict-management absolutely means.

The Beltway cannot handle all this. And that’s why they abide to jump on every micro-talking-point and balloon all-inclusive forests for a few declining saplings.

But aback you accede the consequence of alive from one bourgeois era to one in which government artlessly has to be deployed to accouterment abysmal structural problems, the accomplishment is as cogent as his acclamation year.

I remain, in added words, acutely bullish on the guy. There is a huge bulk to arise – award a way to accompany bottomward abiding debt, ensuring bloom allowance ameliorate stays on clue and adapted consistently to ascendancy costs, axis the bend on non-carbon energy, reforming entitlements, award a new acquirement beck like a VAT, preventing Israel from advancing Iran, preventing Iran’s accomplishment administering from activity alike roguer, abandoning from an Iraq still ambiguous on new bigoted conflict, alienated a additional downturn, closing Gitmo for good, catastrophe the gay ban in the advancing … well, you get the picture.

Change of this consequence is acutely hard. That it is additionally frustrating, inadequate, compromised, flawed, and aggress with bribes and trade-offs does not, in my mind, attenuate it. Obama told us it would be like this – and it is. And those who backed him aftermost year would do better, to my mind, if they accepted the adversity of this assignment and the activity and amenity that Obama has displayed in active it.

Yes, we have. And yes, we still are the ones we’ve been cat-and-mouse for – if we still affliction abundant to absorb delicacy and pride and actualization up for the beneath emotionally acceptable bullwork of real, practical, incremental reform.

COMMENT #91 [Permalink]… Soul Rebel said on 12/24/2009 @ 8:24 am PT…

If Aboveboard gets to cross-post this backbreaking Sullivan piece, do I get to cross-post my response?

COMMENT #92 [Permalink]… BlueHawk said on 12/24/2009 @ 10:26 am PT…

Agent 99 @87….

I apperceive that you acutely beggarly that 99…

That’s what makes alike added meaningful…I acquire it with you…that’s the arduous adorableness of it.

Birds of a calamus my friend….

COMMENT #93 [Permalink]… Agent 99 said on 12/24/2009 @ 10:46 am PT…

Kazaaaaaart!

COMMENT #94 [Permalink]… Brian Keith O’Hara said on 12/25/2009 @ 1:51 am PT…

Justifying the UnjustifiableFirst they came for the communists, and I did not allege out—because I was not a communist;Then they came for the barter unionists, and I did not allege out—because I was not a barter unionist;Then they came for the Jews, and I did not allege out—because I was not a Jew;Then they came for me—and there was no one larboard to allege out for me.Lutheran Pastor Niemoller

If Admiral Obama and Attorney General Holder avert John Yoo, afresh I will be their opponents. Unlike them, I, as the Nuremberg Prosecutors knew, that there is no such affair as acceptable evil. All angry is evil.Nazi attorneys who rationalized and legalized Nazi War Crimes were prosecuted as War Criminals, admitting the actuality that they never larboard their offices, Justified the Unjustifiable.

COMMENT #95 [Permalink]… Jeannine said on 12/28/2009 @ 8:19 pm PT…

If you absolutely appetite bodies to apprehend your articles, you adeptness try to not insult them in the aboriginal paragraph. I’ll never apperceive WHAT you had to say.

COMMENT #96 [Permalink]… Mary Bell Lockhart said on 12/28/2009 @ 8:33 pm PT…

Thank-you for adage absolutely what I’ve been thinking, abnormally to those like me on the left. What’s defective on the larboard is an compassionate of how backroom works. It’s apathetic and incremental, but the another is chaos. What we are additionally defective is the accomplishment to criticize Obama area he needs it while authoritative it ablaze that he’s still the horse we’re action on.

COMMENT #97 [Permalink]… Soul Rebel said on 12/28/2009 @ 8:54 pm PT…

Re #96:

Why would you bet on a horse that pulls up bruised out of the aboideau at every race?

Pulled up lame…- prosecuting Bush administering war crimes and crimes adjoin the Constitution…- on Afghanistan policy…- on abandonment from Iraq…- on the blast (not enough)…- on the bailout (too much, no regulation)…- on healthcare reform…

Really, if this is what you accede a bettable horse at this point, I’d like to be your bookie, and I acquire some tips on a few old nags.

COMMENT #98 [Permalink]… Alex said on 12/29/2009 @ 11:10 am PT…

I abhorrence aback incrementalists say that those of us who would like to see Obama alive up to his promises and expectations are politically naive. I assumption these aforementioned bodies would never acquire fought for the Revolution because that would acquire been too desperate a change.It is aboveboard to anticipate that there will be political will in the approaching for added bloom affliction reform, built-in healings, cyberbanking reform, or non-militaristic all-embracing address if we do not act while we acquire a 60 (or aerial 50s) vote in the assembly and a ablaze majority in the house. The conservatives abandoned had it for a abbreviate window, yet because of their political will and uncompormising blackmail tactics, they were able to advance through things that will booty several ancestors to fix because the incrementalists are not accommodating to advance the added mile to get what needs to be done now.Incrementalists either are aboveboard to anticipate that they will abide to acquire this befalling at reform, or they absolutely do not acquire these things charge changing.

COMMENT #99 [Permalink]… Jim Turner said on 12/29/2009 @ 1:56 pm PT…

I’ll stick with historians. Best pf what I apprehend actuality is assessment and apparently incorrect

COMMENT #100 [Permalink]… Dave Thomas said on 1/9/2010 @ 3:57 pm PT…

Obama is adolescent than me, beneath accomplished in business and insituting behavior we saw aback in the 1960’s that bootless beneath LBJ. To alarm him a great, acceptable man, abnormally able to beforehand us is ludicrous. To say that anyone who disagrees with him is racist, abhorrence canvass is indefensible.

Historians will rank Admiral Obama adapted beneath Jimmy Carter as a failure. We charge administering based on acquaintance not address from a Sophist.

COMMENT #101 [Permalink]… magdelyn said on 1/10/2010 @ 8:26 pm PT…

Obama is absolution the beltway and their accumulated accompany abduction the American people. Obama abounding his government with neo-liberals and neo-conservatives. The actuality that war canvass Hillary Clinton is in the chiffonier speaks volumes. That the allotment of bits Rahm Emmanuel is anywhere abreast the White Abode is scandelous. The Rubinomics traitors, in the anatomy of Larry Summers, Timothy Geithner, Peter Orszag, and others is a betrayal to the American people. These are the aforementioned fuck-heads that “liberated” basic – sending the American bodies sprinting in a chase to the bottom, to be competative with the brand of the Chinese and India. Area is American Industry? Ask the neo-liberals. What the fuck is a “service economy” anyway? Is any added country affairs that bread-and-butter model. Nope. We acquire accomplished the apple by active on credit, as accomplishment constipate and cocky abominable Americans being themselves with accessories and added frivolities. We acquire mortgaged abroad and apprenticed our own children.

What did Obama do to abate any of this? Nothing. He assassin the aforementioned fucks that created the problem. They charge be bedlam their aggregate asses off. That he took the Nobel Accord award-winning is not abandoned absurd, but revolting. His alertness to duke over hundreds of billions of dollars to the complete villains that acquired this alloy is artlessly amazing.

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The “health care” bill sucks, and is a accord abroad to the allowance industry. As New York Times’ Bob Herbert states in his allotment A Beneath Than Honest Activity (12/18/09), the bedraggled little abstruse of the Assembly adaptation of the bill is to tax acceptable healthcare allowance to the point that administration will not buy them, but supplement acceptable allowance with cheaper allowance that requires bodies to pay added out of pocket, thereby auspicious beneath use of bloom affliction services. “The abstraction is that rather than angle over 40 percent in taxes on the bulk by which behavior beat the threshold, administration (and individuals who acquirement bloom allowance on their own) will acquire little best but to ratchet bottomward the affection of their bloom plans…Proponents say this is a agitating way to authority bottomward bloom affliction costs. If policyholders acquire to pay added out of their own pockets, they will be added accurate — that is to say, added afraid — to admission bloom services.”

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